by the-edmeister » July 20th, 2015, 12:54 am
LoudNoise wrote:By the time I got here, Asa was in full cartoon mode. Mike was the last CEO who visited and solve a problem brought up here. Once he left Mozilla decided to define community exclusively as folks who agreed with them.
LOL = you have a real "hard-on" against Mozilla Org in recent years don't you? SUMO = Suck U Mozilla Org ??
No mention made yet about how Mozilla "pillaged" the mZ KB [virtually] verbatim when they first setup "their own" knowledge base in the beginning. Copy & Paste for almost every article they "gleaned" from the mZ KB.iirc, it took 'em a couple of years before any new articles or drastically edited articles started appearing. Or how unsuitable their "forum" software was in the early years (2007-2010), and it isn't much better now. But I guess that is the trend now-a-days; run users who are looking for support thru a maze of illogical paths to get support and piss them off so much that they spend more time being uncouth jerks to the other users who can help them, instead of using their time on the "soapbox" getting to the point of why they sought out support to begin with ...
I spent very little time at SUMO doing support until the volume of new postings here at mozillaZIne dropped off drastically, and it got to the point of 10 "contributors" available (or responding) here for each new support thread that was started. While at the same time at SUMO it was the same 5 (or so) contributors answering the bulk of the support questions - and Mozilla had NO paid staff providing any help (until the last couple of years).
Overall, I doubt if there is anyone left at Mozilla who understands the historical perspective of how mozillaZine helped the Mozilla Foundation get to where they are today. IMO, without the "support" that many, many people here at mozillaZine provided during the first 10 years of the Mozilla Foundation existence, I wonder if Firefox would have ever gotten off the ground. And IMO that is evidenced by the "10 year birthday" celebration last year for Firefox, as James so eloquently points in SUMO threads - Firefox is older that 10 years old in both "name" and overall concept. In my mind (and many others), Firefox was begat as Phoenix during the late spring / early summer of 2002 - not as Firefox 1.0 in Nov 2004.
Ed
[quote="LoudNoise"]By the time I got here, Asa was in full cartoon mode. Mike was the last CEO who visited and solve a problem brought up here. Once he left Mozilla decided to define community exclusively as folks who agreed with them.[/quote]
LOL = you have a real "hard-on" against Mozilla Org in recent years don't you? SUMO = Suck U Mozilla Org ??
No mention made yet about how Mozilla "pillaged" the mZ KB [virtually] verbatim when they first setup "their own" knowledge base in the beginning. Copy & Paste for almost every article they "gleaned" from the mZ KB.iirc, it took 'em a couple of years before any new articles or drastically edited articles started appearing. Or how unsuitable their "forum" software was in the early years (2007-2010), and it isn't much better now. But I guess that is the trend now-a-days; run users who are looking for support thru a maze of illogical paths to get support and piss them off so much that they spend more time being uncouth jerks to the other users who can help them, instead of using their time on the "soapbox" getting to the point of why they sought out support to begin with ...
I spent very little time at SUMO doing support until the volume of new postings here at mozillaZIne dropped off drastically, and it got to the point of 10 "contributors" available (or responding) here for each new support thread that was started. While at the same time at SUMO it was the same 5 (or so) contributors answering the bulk of the support questions - and Mozilla had NO paid staff providing any help (until the last couple of years).
Overall, I doubt if there is anyone left at Mozilla who understands the historical perspective of how mozillaZine helped the Mozilla Foundation get to where they are today. IMO, without the "support" that many, many people here at mozillaZine provided during the first 10 years of the Mozilla Foundation existence, I wonder if Firefox would have ever gotten off the ground. And IMO that is evidenced by the "10 year birthday" celebration last year for Firefox, as James so eloquently points in SUMO threads - Firefox is older that 10 years old in both "name" and overall concept. In my mind (and many others), Firefox was begat as Phoenix during the late spring / early summer of 2002 - not as Firefox 1.0 in Nov 2004.
Ed