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by Never Logging In » August 13th, 2006, 6:20 pm

Already, it looks like the forums are unlocked now! (At least at this time.)

by oldtimer » August 12th, 2006, 9:32 pm

Mozilla, I'm sorry to say is an ass for not giving you guys as many fucking servers as you need. Sorry for the curse but I was just checking out the Firefox official build release page and knew that they were redirecting traffic here in some way [I think since the 1.5 release last year] b/c I was sure they had posted a link to these forums. And I was right, I found it easily as I'm sure the millions of Firefox users around did too: http://www.mozilla.com/support/. Which can be seen in the subsection 'Message boards' right after clicking that large top-aligned 'Support' button from the Firefox page. To further increase Mozillazine's popularity.... the 3rd link under Firefox Help, is 'Knowledge Base'. Click that, lol, we are directly referenced in bold smack dab in the middle of the page:
If you wish to discuss problems or ask questions related to Firefox, please use the MozillaZine Forums. This Knowledge Base simply provides documentation.


Geez, stop being cheap Mozilla. I know they don't support us, we're a separate entity. But when they start telling people to come here.... when do they realize they're going to need to help us accomodate that size of people they're redirecting to us.

Would talking to Ben Goodger do anything about this? It doesn't seem anybody w/ money can be reached about this situation.

Let's just indefinitely shut down the forums so they can see just exactly how much of a damn role we play in making Firefox what it is. I know that would be unbearable... even for a day but if this is going to help us in the long term... why not? We can surely live w/o Peter's trunk build threads for a while [even as much as that last part was hard as hell to type, we have to make a statement]. We can't keep running on fumes hoping for someone to donate a free server or to raise enough money to buy another. I just don't think the users of the Mz are that generous. But the outrage of millions of users should grab the attention of Mozilla.

by Guest » August 12th, 2006, 8:00 am

Yes, please open Sm builds. Jasonb posts are really usefull !

by old np » August 11th, 2006, 9:02 am

by Anonymous (not logged in) » August 11th, 2006, 8:37 am

Anonymous wrote:I'm hoping to see the Official Builds forum open to guests again. The closest thing to Peter(6)'s threads is The Burning Edge, which is over a week out of date right now.


I'm also waiting for Offical Builds to open again.
If only Peter(6) would post his updates elsewhere, then I wouldn't ever need to burden MozillaZine with bandwidth again.

Anyway, I'll just continue to use my latest trunk nightly, essentually blind, for the time being.

by Guest » August 10th, 2006, 8:47 pm

I'm hoping to see the Official Builds forum open to guests again. The closest thing to Peter(6)'s threads is The Burning Edge, which is over a week out of date right now.

by old np » August 10th, 2006, 7:57 pm

Can we re-allow non-logged in users to see the Extensions Releases forum? Many extension developers (me included) use threads in that forum as the primary place for support for our users.

Server Load

by Karnac » August 10th, 2006, 1:14 pm

Growing Pains: A high class problem. :-)

by Guest » August 10th, 2006, 7:31 am

Alex Bishop wrote:It's not intended to be permanent and it certainly isn't a change that anybody wants.
Great news indeed!

by n/a (whatever) » August 9th, 2006, 5:32 pm

Alex Bishop wrote:The desire is to immediately reduce the load on the server by any reasonable means possible, as it's too high right now. It's not intended to be permanent and it certainly isn't a change that anybody wants.


Thank you for the response.
I am glad to hear that it will not be permanent.
I can wait. I will periodically check back later.
Hopefully the server load will improve in the near future.

by Alex Bishop » August 9th, 2006, 3:22 pm

n/a (whatever) wrote:I see two extremes with this change:

1) Everyone desiring to view the forums a) logs in and b) views the forums as they originally wanted to. Thus, you have actually _increased_ the load.

2) Some people give up on logging in and thus do not read the forums.
This will decrease the load.

I have a feeling that 2) is the desired result.


The desire is to immediately reduce the load on the server by any reasonable means possible, as it's too high right now. It's not intended to be permanent and it certainly isn't a change that anybody wants.

by paulfox » August 9th, 2006, 12:23 pm

I just posted here:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic ... 98#2421498

but this is probably more "correct place," so sorry for the double post; I'll correct it. I like it. The "remember me" has never worked anyway despite cookie enabled and box checked. At least now you know you're logged in, and if it cuts down on load that's even better.

I'll amend/delete the other post.

by Mc. » August 9th, 2006, 11:44 am

Even if I try to open search results I end in Log in.
Best you shut the forums.

by Jimbob0i0 » August 9th, 2006, 3:54 am

Well I like to read the boards on the way to/from work but do not want to reset my 'read' status (and sometime sthe mobile device I use has trouble logging in anyway). I was surprised not to be able to read on the way in today.

This is also going to affect the ability to find solutions to problems in google (for web dev issues)... I do hope this policy is reverted at some point soon.

by n/a (whatever) » August 9th, 2006, 1:44 am

> You could always check the "Log me on automatically each visit" box
> on the log in page so that it doesn''t prompt you to enter the information
> each and every time you visit the forums, but still you would need to register
> for an account.

I have an account.
Or I did several years ago, at least.
I do not remember the password, so I would have to further _burden the server load_ by requesting it be sent to me again.

The single most important reason that I chose Firefox over other browsers is because it's ability to _completely_ clear cache, cookies, saved passwords, etc. (IE left too much behind, even after clearing.) I have mostly disabled all of that. And the best part is the Clear Private Data on close. By enabling those things that I so distaste just to view threads, it essentially invalidates the very reason that I chose to use Firefox. Catch-22.

> Or come up with the bucks for a Cray server to handle the load surges.

I'm open to considering donating.

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