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Re: The End

PostPosted: December 27th, 2019, 1:58 pm
by Peter Creasey
There might be a difference of opinion as to whether a friendly voice mail to Jason is an "invasion of privacy".

We all appreciate greatly what all Jason has done here, but it is also quite important what happens henceforth with this forum.

Re: The End

PostPosted: December 27th, 2019, 2:11 pm
by LuvKomputrs
malliz wrote:Invation of privacy ever cross your mind?

Yes. However, the number is his business number and it is not his private home number.
His company information also has a link to mozillaZine as well.
*Most popular domain of this owner: mozillazine.org - mozillaZine *
IMHO that would not be considered an "invasion of privacy".

Re: The End

PostPosted: December 27th, 2019, 2:12 pm
by LuvKomputrs
Peter Creasey wrote:There might be a difference of opinion as to whether a friendly voice mail to Jason is an "invasion of privacy".

We all appreciate greatly what all Jason has done here, but it is also quite important what happens henceforth with this forum.

There is also information about mozillaZine as well as his company name, business address and business/fax number.
* Most popular domain of this owner: mozillazine.org - mozillaZine*
IMHO that would not be considered an "invasion of privacy".
And the voicemail I left him was specifically in relation to the mozillaZine forums future and the importance thereof.

Re: The End

PostPosted: December 28th, 2019, 3:55 am
by LIMPET235
To all concerned & just IMHO...

Please...DO NOT add to Jason's "work load" at this time.

Just leave well enough alone.

We cannot do anything but wait & hope for the best for the forum & all the loyal members.

Re: The End

PostPosted: December 28th, 2019, 6:56 am
by leishirsute
Do donations to Seamonkey project help fund this forum?

Re: The End

PostPosted: December 28th, 2019, 8:03 am
by the-edmeister
LuvKomputrs wrote:Did some research online and actually got Jason's aka kerz phone number! :)
It's for his company information and I called him and left him a message. ...

Intrusive and rude, not to mentioned an invasion of privacy.

"We" are all lucky that MozillaZine has existed for so long. I expected Jason to shut it down 10 years ago, a couple of years after Mozilla opened SUMO, the official Firefox support forum and KnowledgeBase. Without the Help Menu item in Firefox for Firefox Help directing users to SUMO the traffic dropped off rapidly in 2007-2008 here. Only long time users of this fora and those who did a search for "Firefox support" ended up here, or used both for support.

Re: The End

PostPosted: December 28th, 2019, 1:01 pm
by LuvKomputrs
LIMPET235 wrote:To all concerned & just IMHO...

Please...DO NOT add to Jason's "work load" at this time.

Just leave well enough alone.

We cannot do anything but wait & hope for the best for the forum & all the loyal members.

Good points.
I do fully realize how very, very busy Jason is.

Re: The End

PostPosted: December 28th, 2019, 1:12 pm
by LuvKomputrs
the-edmeister wrote:
LuvKomputrs wrote:Did some research online and actually got Jason's aka kerz phone number! :)
It's for his company information and I called him and left him a message. ...

Intrusive and rude, not to mentioned an invasion of privacy.

"We" are all lucky that MozillaZine has existed for so long. I expected Jason to shut it down 10 years ago, a couple of years after Mozilla opened SUMO, the official Firefox support forum and KnowledgeBase. Without the Help Menu item in Firefox for Firefox Help directing users to SUMO the traffic dropped off rapidly in 2007-2008 here. Only long time users of this fora and those who did a search for "Firefox support" ended up here, or used both for support.

Didn't mean to be intrusive nor rude. Not my intention at all. Respectfully disagree with you that it was an invasion of privacy.
And FYI the information for Jason's company is made publicly available online and with his business/company name information it has a direct link to the mozilaZine forums on that particular web page.
In addition I am very aware of how very, very busy Jason is and in my voicemail to him I was respectful of that and told him that and was very polite.
Also, I wished him all the best in the New Year and that he did a wonderful job at the mozillaZine forums for his many years as administrator here and was very, very grateful for that.

Re: The End

PostPosted: December 28th, 2019, 7:21 pm
by Peter Creasey
Whether or not what's been done is ill-advised is apparently subject to differing opinions; however, surely we can all agree that nothing further should be done that might in any way be intrusive to Jason's domain.

Assuming, of course, that Jason is well aware of everyone's concern about the ongoing viability of the SeaMonkey boards.

Re: The End

PostPosted: December 29th, 2019, 12:07 am
by Starlite
No one has mentioned what the problem is. Is it money to keep it hosted, or IT time to keep it maintained or does Mozilla want it stopped.

He has been absolutely very gracious the last umpteen years to keep it afloat and if has a wife like a few guys I know, it's a wonder he was able to do it :-)

It is such a well used site and very much needed, surely there is something someone can do to keep it up.

If it's money maybe a 'Fund Me' project.

Anyway I'm just a casual user every now and then but the last few days have been worried as I was not able to get any response from the URL.

Now it's back so very glad. My problem solved in minutes as usual.

Thank you and let's hope 2020 sees it stay up and keep on serving the grateful public.

Re: The End

PostPosted: December 29th, 2019, 12:40 am
by LoveMyFoxy
Read the first post.

Re: The End

PostPosted: December 29th, 2019, 2:22 am
by Frank Lion
LoveMyFoxy wrote:Read the first post.

Jeeze, it's coming to something when the most sensible post on a page (i.e. this one, for example) is one by LoveMyFoxy!

Re: The End

PostPosted: December 29th, 2019, 4:53 pm
by Snake4
why do Waterfox or Palemoon posters care? as they got there own forums to post in.

Re: The End

PostPosted: December 29th, 2019, 5:01 pm
by Starlite
Of course I read the first post and one can understand after so long why he'd want to, or have to, give it up.

Well, the time has come unfortunately. I unfortunately no longer have time to keep the site running (as you may have noticed). I'll be moving the site into readonly mode, to prepare to archive it in the next little while, starting with the KB, then the Forums. It's been a pleasure serving you for the last 21 years, but all good things must come to an end. Special thanks to the moderators who have hung on for so long, and everyone else who continues to post and chat.


My question is how can it keep going without him if it had to be. It is too good a resource to just 'disappear.'

Pale Moon is used for certain Addons that FF dropped, Other than that FF is used.

Have a nice day.

Re: The End

PostPosted: December 29th, 2019, 5:19 pm
by Frank Lion
Starlite wrote:My question is how can it keep going without him if it had to be.

Read the tenth post.