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Post Posted November 27th, 2011, 7:06 pm

I have "remember visited pages for 2 days" and it still never shows any history in my list.

No matter how many days I put my History always shows nothing. What could be doing it?

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Post Posted November 27th, 2011, 8:13 pm

Have you quit and re-launched Camino since making the change? If not, try that and then visit a couple of sites. Then make sure there's a user-writeable, non-empty file called "places.sqlite" in ~/Library/Application Support/Camino/ . If that doesn't work, maybe try a totally new profile folder? You don't have a user.js file, do you?

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Post Posted November 27th, 2011, 8:24 pm

No user.js.

Tried just getting rid of places.sqlite and places-sqlite.journal and that did not do it.

Tried a new profile. And that did it. I'll add stuff back one by one to see what the culprit is.

Looks like something in my prefs.js file

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Post Posted November 27th, 2011, 8:40 pm

Got it down to these:

user_pref("network.dns.disablePrefetch", true);
user_pref("network.http.max-connections", 24);
user_pref("network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-proxy", 16);
user_pref("network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server", 16);
user_pref("network.http.pipelining", true);
user_pref("network.http.pipelining.maxrequests", 8);
user_pref("network.http.proxy.pipelining", true);

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Post Posted November 27th, 2011, 9:05 pm

user_pref("network.dns.disablePrefetch", true);

is the culprit.

How come I can't turn that off and still get History?

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Post Posted November 27th, 2011, 11:59 pm

stardomains wrote:How come I can't turn that off and still get History?


It is a bug :-(. Thanks for finding this.
I filed: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=705610 for this issue

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Post Posted November 28th, 2011, 7:37 am

stardomains wrote:Got it down to these:

user_pref("network.dns.disablePrefetch", true);
user_pref("network.http.max-connections", 24);
user_pref("network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-proxy", 16);
user_pref("network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server", 16);
user_pref("network.http.pipelining", true);
user_pref("network.http.pipelining.maxrequests", 8);
user_pref("network.http.proxy.pipelining", true);


Just curious: why did you change *any* of these prefs from their defaults? They're set to the values they are for a reason, and in particular, changing the max connections values is just rude to other users.

(It looks like "disable DNS prefetch" might have been a well-intentioned but misinformed workaround for buggy router firmware: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=475603 explains more. In that case, the real solution is probably to upgrade your router to the latest firmware, or use a different router.)

If a change in the defaults were able to significantly improve the browsing experience for users at no cost, don't you think the Core developers would have set new defaults?

To be clear, I'm not upset that you found a bug -- that's a good thing -- but there have been countless examples, of which this is just the latest, of people thinking they're smarter than the Core devs and tweaking settings that probably shouldn't be messed with.

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Post Posted November 28th, 2011, 7:49 am

cl: if I were on a real slow network or in a low or bad bandwidth situation, I would certainly disable prefetch. That is a thing invented to please some web developers (and google search) to give the impression that pages are fetched faster.

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Post Posted November 28th, 2011, 10:44 am

I got a lot of that from Google searches like "speed firefox about:config". There's tons of people posting their recommendations. I take some of them and use them. Besides, prefetching DNS is something I have no desire to do. I don't want my browser sending requests for every weird/unknown link on every page. I turn as much prefetching off as possible.

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Post Posted November 28th, 2011, 11:46 am

phiw13 wrote:cl: if I were on a real slow network or in a low or bad bandwidth situation, I would certainly disable prefetch. That is a thing invented to please some web developers (and google search) to give the impression that pages are fetched faster.

Prefetch was actually designed to improve pageload performance in exactly those network types (e.g., mobile phones on EDGE networks), because DNS resolution is small in packet size but slow; if you can resolve DNS for hosts of all related URLs on a page while the user is reading the page, you won't have to wait for DNS lookups to succeed once the user goes to leave.

Gecko's prefetch implementation also does something completely different, which is to improve parallelization of requests for items referenced by/used in the current page (images, scripts, CSS) *during pageload*, so that those will be ready sooner for construction of the page.
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Post Posted November 28th, 2011, 8:23 pm

stardomains wrote:I got a lot of that from Google searches like "speed firefox about:config". There's tons of people posting their recommendations.


Yeah, tons of people who are not Gecko developers and have no real clue what the prefs actually do, just a bunch of anecdotal "evidence" that something "feels" faster.

Would you trust a bunch of semi-anonymous people on the Internet telling you that the (flimsy plastic) Vortex Air Filter and Fuel Magnetizer is improving your gas mileage 40% for just $69.99 plus shipping, or would you ask an engineer or mechanic?

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