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WJTW

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Post Posted November 6th, 2002, 12:36 am

Hi,

I am just curious. Why can't any Phoenix Theme 'takeover' the scrollbars, status bars, message boxes and widgets?

It seems to me that the ONLY thing changeable by Themes in Phoenix is the toolbar and its buttons...

Is it true that by working that way, the system wouldn't be taxed as much? Are the scrollbars rendered by Windows, therefore, making scrollbar changing impossible?

Hope someone could answer me on this...
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Post Posted November 6th, 2002, 2:35 am

WJTW wrote:Hi,

I am just curious. Why can't any Phoenix Theme 'takeover' the scrollbars, status bars, message boxes and widgets?

It seems to me that the ONLY thing changeable by Themes in Phoenix is the toolbar and its buttons...

Is it true that by working that way, the system wouldn't be taxed as much? Are the scrollbars rendered by Windows, therefore, making scrollbar changing impossible?


The themers of Phoenix are generally not experienced themers of Mozilla, most have chosen not to theme the toolbars, perhaps because they don't know what to change :)

Orbit 3+1 does theme toolbars/scrollbars, but then I've themed Mozilla :mrgreen:

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Post Posted November 6th, 2002, 2:42 am

Is it that to modify the scollbar.. I need to change the slider.gif?
Or maybe modify the scrollbars.css?
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Post Posted November 6th, 2002, 7:08 am

I am just curious. Why can't any Phoenix Theme 'takeover' the scrollbars, status bars, message boxes and widgets?

It is possible to do heavy modifications, and I am in the process of doing so. Unfortunately, the lack of DOM Inspector brings out the laziness in me and I refuse to skin under such conditions. I have the graphics done, but the CSS work is delayed for the time being.

I am just curious. Why can't any Phoenix Theme 'takeover' the scrollbars, status bars, message boxes and widgets?


classic.jar!/global/scrollbars.css is the file to edit.

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Post Posted November 6th, 2002, 8:57 am

grayrest wrote:Unfortunately, the lack of DOM Inspector brings out the laziness in me and I refuse to skin under such conditions. I have the graphics done, but the CSS work is delayed for the time being.


if you build your own Phoenix, DOM inspector is available via the mozengineer add-on http://www.joehewitt.com/mozilla/mozengineer/

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Post Posted November 6th, 2002, 8:58 am

cdn wrote:if you build your own Phoenix, DOM inspector is available via the mozengineer add-on http://www.joehewitt.com/mozilla/mozengineer/


Just curious, why is it necessary to build your own Phoenix? What's missing in the default builds? Not having the DOM Inspector is a pain, and I really think it's holding up theme/addon development.

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Post Posted November 6th, 2002, 10:00 am

Ted Mielczarek wrote:Just curious, why is it necessary to build your own Phoenix? What's missing in the default builds? Not having the DOM Inspector is a pain, and I really think it's holding up theme/addon development.


building my own, I am guaranteed to get inspector.jar built,
whereas I've yet to download a build with it in, please correct me if I'm wrong about that : )

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Post Posted November 6th, 2002, 11:17 am

bah, I hate having to build myself. I tried just downloading inspector.jar then installing mozengineer, but that doesn't work. Maybe sometime over the weekend I'll set up a build.

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Post Posted November 6th, 2002, 11:52 am

grayrest wrote:bah, I hate having to build myself. I tried just downloading inspector.jar then installing mozengineer, but that doesn't work. Maybe sometime over the weekend I'll set up a build.


It would be nice to find out what else is breaking this. Or maybe we could just bug Joe Hewitt to fix mozEngineer for Phoenix. :)

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Post Posted November 10th, 2002, 8:34 am

On this note, just out of curiosity, what's the listbox.css file useful for, since listbox layout is defined in the menulist.css file?

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Post Posted November 10th, 2002, 1:04 pm

If you take a look at LittleMozilla and Wood at www.deskmod.org,
you will see that these also style the other bits: scrollbar, menu, etc.
LittlePhoenix, which is a LittleMozilla stripped down for Phoenix, provides a starting
set for your 'extended' theming adventure.

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