djk wrote:I advise to install (cleanly) a build of firebird that you _know_ didn't crash randomly. If it doesn't crash randomly, we can start to assume that nothing on your computer is failing.
But that means I have to use a very outdated version for quite a while and even if it hasn't crashed till the end of the week, I wouldn't bet that it's 100% stable.
What's wrong with using talkback to identify the last piece of code being executed right before the crash? Is it expensive to deceipher a talkbar report? Or is it that talkback doesn't really work with Phoenix? If so, we should get it working, as it identified quite a lot of nasty bugs in Mozilla in the past and was really helpful.
It's still possible that a driver and/or hardware problem is causing your trouble with firebird. I have an old ATI vid card on my work machine, and only Gecko tickled bugs in it; all other programs displayed things just fine.
Yes, I still remember the NVidia bug. NVidia had a bug in their driver for Win98. If you stretched a picture to a multiple of 2048 in hardware, the driver crashed (because of a divide by zero error), causing Mozilla to crash and finally your whole system hung. This bug was only triggered by Mozilla, as no other program used that function, maybe except games and the chance that they scale a bitmap two a mlutiple of 2048 is very unlikely, while webpages use often "spacing pixels" that are only one pixel and scale them quite a bit.
NVidia fixed that bug and since that day everything is working fine. Strange enough, this bug was probably in the NVidia drivers from the very beginning and it took years to find a program that triggers it.
Maybe something got turned on / changed in firebird which is now stressing your drivers/hardware in new ways which trigger a crash. Perhaps a driver update would help.
I could run a NVidia driver update, but last time Talkback also helped to find out that the NVidia crash always happened when a picture is scaled in hardware. So again, talkback would be helpful.
I recall that a certain version of the Java Virtual Machine and Radeon video cards would also cause problems. What video card and Java version do you have?
NVidia, Geforce2 MX.
Java 1.4.2beta, but the crashes are not related to Java pages (that's one of the few things I can exclude for sure). The Java Plugin wasn't even loaded during the last crashes.
Do you recall installing anything around the time firebird became unstable?
XVid video codec, but that's only used when playing videos or encoding them. It's definitely not loaded while Phoenix is running and if it crashes anything, it's only the video player or encoding tool.
Despite that, I'm not using a lot of software. The same News and Mail client for months, the same video and audio editors for almost half a year now. No new browser plugins. It would have to be something that is running while Phoenix is running, but I already had crashes when Phoenix was the only running program (and I don't have hundreds of things in tray like some other people, I hate it if background tasks run that are not necessary and just eat up my memory).
If Talkback doesn't work, maybe I have to see what Dr Watson says about the crashes. Already when I had the NVidia crashes on Win98, Dr Watson was able to tell me that the program was killed due to a divide by zero error. Most of the time crashes are NULL pointer crashes.