Will they ever fix font rendering in firefox 4?

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NoNameReally
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Re: Will they ever fix font rendering in firefox 4?

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They look similar here, but there's considerably better color in the pic bellow.

In my ATI HD4870 or something, fonts look pretty much like yours, on top, but there's considerable lack of antialiasing on bolds and bigger fonts.
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Re: Will they ever fix font rendering in firefox 4?

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my screen shot

I think it has improved, but definitely not good enough. The fonts are porous, fuzzy.

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Re: Will they ever fix font rendering in firefox 4?

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My Screen: (Laptop with Intel MHD4500, with latest drivers) This is a 1 year old laptop.

Top without hardware accelerator, bottom with:

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Re: Will they ever fix font rendering in firefox 4?

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You know what, after working with D2D on for so long, the bottom (thinner) version actually looks better to me now. The top version looks unnecessarily thick and fuzzy. The only thing that does still bother me is the ugly w.
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Re: Will they ever fix font rendering in firefox 4?

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I also prefer the D2D way of font smoothing. After a few weeks of using Firefox 4 nightlies to browse the web, I got used to it so much, standard ClearType looks weird to me. I mean, it works okay in the Windows UI, but when I read a lot of text, D2D seems better.
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You get used to it, that's for sure. Just like I thought ClearType was OMG so worse than whatever Windows used before when I first saw it.

But just look at all the blurriness thing and you can see DW is certainly not better for the eye.
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Re: Will they ever fix font rendering in firefox 4?

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With DW font's loose contrast and fatigue the eyes.
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Re: Will they ever fix font rendering in firefox 4?

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DirectWrite fonts have not had any blur issues for some time, it must be system configuration dependent.

There is a overbold issue for light/dark text on dark/light backgrounds.
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Re: Will they ever fix font rendering in firefox 4?

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squall_leonhart wrote:DirectWrite fonts have not had any blur issues for some time, it must be system configuration dependent.

There is a overbold issue for light/dark text on dark/light backgrounds.


See my previous screen shot, I can't use Firefox with DW. I have disabled it. Since begining. Just tried it once in a while.
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Re: Will they ever fix font rendering in firefox 4?

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it seems a amd graphic card specific issue, nv card, or intel chip have no such problem.

Either way, I have disabled it for months now, I did some testing and hardware acceleration only improve js performance, or video playback, or webGL by 10-25%. I don't think it worth my eyesight.
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Re: Will they ever fix font rendering in firefox 4?

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I don't see any difference between AMD and Nvidia, both render D2D text exactly the same way. Unless I'm missing something :P
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Re: Will they ever fix font rendering in firefox 4?

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orizng wrote:it seems a amd graphic card specific issue, nv card, or intel chip have no such problem.

Either way, I have disabled it for months now, I did some testing and hardware acceleration only improve js performance, or video playback, or webGL by 10-25%. I don't think it worth my eyesight.

What card did you use for your screenshot? One of your earlier posts suggests that you have an nvidia card.

mds67 said they have intel graphics and their screenshot looks similar to ours. My card is an ATI HD4670. It seems like people are just spreading anti-ATI FUD without any evidence that it's vendor specific.
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Re: Will they ever fix font rendering in firefox 4?

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I have Radeon HD 4850, and all "blurry text" problems I saw were fixed sometime around beta 7.
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Re: Will they ever fix font rendering in firefox 4?

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Run the Cleartype Tuning tool -- type 'cleartype' into the search box in the Start menu and click what comes up.
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Re: Will they ever fix font rendering in firefox 4?

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Every screen shot posted here shows the same problem to me, what's different are the font types and sizes in each.

I think tou guys either need to check your eyes out or have gotten used to the bad fonts. =P
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