Will they ever fix font rendering in firefox 4?

[kliu0x52]

Is there a bug for font AA not working at all in recent nightlies?

If you're using prefs to force-enable DirectWrite or Direct2D, that was unintentionally broken by 651498.

please don't, character spacing looks so wrong with gdi classic.

Is that GDI classic by way of the (broken and buggy) AA tuner? Or GDI classic by way of Firefox's new setting and/or by disabling HWA? GDI's spacing has always been consistent and event; nothing wrong with it (okay, you can't count MS Office, since that use GDI rendering with natural spacing/positioning, so spacing there looks wrong).

For people who aren't following the bug...
* This is a very good read: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2007/06/12.html
* I don't think that we should use GDI across the board. Specifically, for tiny text (e.g,, 4pt), Natural looks much clearer than GDI. And for larger text, Natural looks better. GDI-style pixel-gridded rendering works best when the strokes in a font are reasonably close to a pixel in width, and I think that the smart move would be to use GDI only on that range. I think that is the course of action that the developers would find the most palatable.

[Juiced]

Is there a bug for font AA not working at all in recent nightlies?

If you're using prefs to force-enable DirectWrite or Direct2D, that was unintentionally broken by 651498.

Is there a workaround, or will we have to wait till the regression is fixed?

[kliu0x52]

Is there a workaround, or will we have to wait till the regression is fixed?

There is no workaround.

[avada]

You can call it blurry, our you can call it smooth. http://www.basschouten.com/blog1.php/20 ... irectwrite

True, but I can't see any real usage for this"2D" and "3D" eye candy fonts.
For fonts in "1D" using GDI Classic should be default. I see no reason why only Firefox should make 99% fonts blurry because of this

You talk like its some undeniable truth that GDI rendering is the best. You're wrong. I use natural symmetric, because GDI often looks rather jagged. And its actually more pleasant than the GDI. Maybe it looks blurry to you because you watch your monitor too close. I watch my 24" monitor from about a 70 cm distance.

[Virtual_ManPL]

I don't think so, because I have 22" LCD and it's more than 1m from me.
See my screenshots here how it looks on my end - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=652141

I would like to see similar comparison with all 7 values, when someone have different opinion

[hews310]

@psishock, n.b.: due to bug 651498, hardware acceleration currently can't be turned off via prefs (so acc_on == acc_off)...

Damnit, I thought I was being subjected to HWA over the past few days & I was , DW isn't off even if you select HWA off in options.

OMG, gfx.font_rendering.cleartype_params.rendering_mode = 2 actually works! I can safely return from Chrome

Excellent, thank you gods !!!

[psishock]

Excellent, thank you gods !!!

Heh, you are flattering the Mozilla team. xD

[watdis]

You can call it blurry, our you can call it smooth. http://www.basschouten.com/blog1.php/20 ... irectwrite

True, but I can't see any real usage for this"2D" and "3D" eye candy fonts.
For fonts in "1D" using GDI Classic should be default. I see no reason why only Firefox should make 99% fonts blurry because of this

You talk like its some undeniable truth that GDI rendering is the best. You're wrong. I use natural symmetric, because GDI often looks rather jagged. And its actually more pleasant than the GDI. Maybe it looks blurry to you because you watch your monitor too close. I watch my 24" monitor from about a 70 cm distance.

You talk like its some undeniable truth that DWrite rendering is the best. You're wrong. I use GDI classic, because DWrite often looks less sharp. And its actually more pleasant than the DWrite. Maybe it looks jagged to you because you watch your monitor too close. I watch my 21" monitor from about a ~70 cm distance.

See? Anyone can do this. It makes sense that DWrite looks worse because it's still didn't mature enough like GDI did. There's a lot of work and tweaking to be done.

Also, does anyone else get different looking font on this link? I use GDI classic setting along with AAtuner for bigger fonts. Link: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/harfbuzz

3.6 http://i.imgur.com/hsWwK.png
Nightly + AA Tuner http://i.imgur.com/Aoj7T.png

[hews310]

Excellent, thank you gods !!!

Heh, you are flattering the Mozilla team. xD

I was just thanking the Gods for guiding them onto the correct path .

[Sylph]

LOL! If I put the mode as 1, all fonts disappear!

[Sylph]

And it ClearType-s Lucida Sans Unicode for no reason no matter what setting I choose.

[T0morrow]

Well after testing it seems setting 2 works best on my configuration.

[happysurf]

Why I don't have the string gfx.font_rendering.cleartype_params.rendering_mode in my about:config preferences?
I use Fx 4.01 on 7 64bit.
Thanks.

[KWierso]

Because it wasn't landed for 4.0?

[Fanolian]

Why I don't have the string gfx.font_rendering.cleartype_params.rendering_mode in my about:config preferences?
I use Fx 4.01 on 7 64bit.
Thanks.

It's only in Nightly for now. You won't get it in Firefox 5 neither.