Littlemutt wrote:Before coming to work I spoke briefly with the gfx folks on IRC, and they are not sure if DW is actually turned 'off', but they are pretty sure that the rendering mode as defined in the head of the site is causing the rendering to change from DW Cleartype to GDI type fonts, there is uncertainty if hardware accel is actually off - or just the mode forced in the head of the page, examined with IE9 Tools F12.
Thanks for the explanation, I have just done a little study of how FF4 handles double lls with hardware acceleration on, the answer is not very well, and IE9 does it better mainly because they separate the letters better as I stated before, with lighter colors. Another observation is that neither double ll's on either IE9 or FF4 hardware accelerated are symmetrical, as they are, non accelerated in FF4 and other browsers. You can see this even at normal size with the second l of 'you'll' on IE9 looking thinner than the first, because the first l has two darker bars and 1 light, and the second only one dark bar. I'm not sure why this is better, in fact I think this lack of similarity in the way text is aliased across a page is possibly what is the major cause of this blurry/3d without 3d glasses look
, conclusion- directwrite text is not yet fit for purpose, even if IE9 does it a bit better than FF4.
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also posted on bug
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=635490#c11Husar wrote:I have noticed that the rendering quality varies between different sites and fonts. To be honest, on most sites I don't notice to much of a difference. On mozzillazine for example the experience is almost the same, HW on or off.
But, on some sites the issues are so severe that they are almost unusable.
I'm using Firefox 4 beta 11 on a Windows 7 Ultimate x64 OS.
Graphic card is ATI HD 5750 (Catalyst Version 10.11).
Argh, the pink/turquoise colour fringing on the first hardware accelerated text is killing my eyes
, I am actually getting black spots after looking at that! I am afraid the problem seems to be Microsoft's as much as Mozilla's, although as you see from my post above, Microsoft seemed to have made some improvements that Mozilla don't seem to have caught onto, although it still looks pretty crap imo . All I can suggest is please post on the bug below and vote the bug at the top as they seem to be under the impression most people are happy with h/w accelerated text
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=635490The gmail problem many people have reported
http://input.mozilla.com/en-US/beta/sea ... gmail+texthttp://input.mozilla.com/en-US/beta/sea ... gmail+font