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More reasons to get rid of plugins.
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Omega X wrote:More reasons to get rid of plugins.

Care to provide evidence how this is a plugin issue and NOT a Firefox issue?
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In order to have this problem, a windowed plugin has to be on the page.

Windowed plugins are 3rd party attachments that often create problems with the program its attached to. Those programs have to then create safeguards to protect themselves from poor or malicious implementation. Often times, those attachments manage to bypass those protections and cause problems anyway.

The issue described in the bug exists in every browser on the market currently. Even in IE9. Its less pronounced in Chromium but the displacement still exist when you scroll fast enough. To mitigate, you can turn off smooth scrolling. But that only obfuscates the issue as there's not enough frames when scrolling giving the impression that it teleport up/down the page. They could also take a frame of the windowed plugin and scroll that in place of the plugin until the page stops. But that'll only generate another bug entry. In the end, they'll just have to paint the page less when scrolling or speed up the scroll rate to try and match the displacement.
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15 years of security holes, slow page loads, loading screens, memory hogging, annoying advertisements, keyboard hijacking, UI lockup (even in a separate process! ha!), endless new crashes, tracking mechanisms, unwanted extra developer/helper extensions, and continuous updates that annoy users, fail to register, and bundle unwanted 3rd-party junkware that hijacks searches and adds broken toolbars, and personally I've had it. Plugins have always been a cludgy encumbrance designed to work around media formats with nasty non-user-friendly licenses. A Snappy/Memshrink/Security/Mission(Open Web) priority would be to eliminate the need for plugins where-ever possible IMO.
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patrickjdempsey wrote:15 years of security holes, slow page loads, loading screens, memory hogging, annoying advertisements, keyboard hijacking, UI lockup (even in a separate process! ha!), endless new crashes, tracking mechanisms, unwanted extra developer/helper extensions, and continuous updates that annoy users, fail to register, and bundle unwanted 3rd-party junkware that hijacks searches and adds broken toolbars, and personally I've had it. Plugins have always been a cludgy encumbrance designed to work around media formats with nasty non-user-friendly licenses. A Snappy/Memshrink/Security/Mission(Open Web) priority would be to eliminate the need for plugins where-ever possible IMO.


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P1 Snappy related to Tabstrip reflow thingy down: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750417
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Any news on OMTC, SuperSnappy etc?
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iwod wrote:Any news on OMTC, SuperSnappy etc?

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/GFX/2012-October-15

Supersnappy developer is away until mid November. Last update he wanted to spin up nightlies. Don't know what happened after that.
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Does anyone know the bug that fixes the jank caused by notifications?
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sabret00the wrote:Does anyone know the bug that fixes the jank caused by notifications?

Although the bug was related to tab closing, I suspect it might be this: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750417
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Bas just got assigned to the D3D10 OMTC bug. Smells like implementation is on the horizon.
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Could anyone here confirm some major janks I described on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=803570 please?
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Try disabling IPV6 on the W7 machine.
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Apart from OMTC, SuperSnappy, i think the worst Jank that i have experience day to day even with an SSD drive is Flash. The Flash player hangs, slows down the browser. Does anyone know if this is something being worked on from Adobe / Mozilla ?
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