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Post Posted January 19th, 2013, 8:12 pm

Grantius wrote:When I used 64bit nightly, and then switched back to 32bit, I noticed it was much faster. even with ~200 tabs open, and 2GB RAM usage 32bit just doesn't stop.

I understand user experiences will vary ... still, everything's moving to 64bit (I can say that without getting in trouble, I think, since this is a Winx64Fx thread). I'd hate to see Mozilla left behind when there is an active community of testers willing to run the gamut of checking out a Winx64Fx.

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Post Posted January 19th, 2013, 9:30 pm

mdleers wrote:I understa.

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Post Posted January 19th, 2013, 11:40 pm

Frank Lion wrote:
mdleers wrote:I understa.

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So will this be locked, or can we have a "64bit nightly" sticky?
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Post Posted January 22nd, 2013, 1:25 am

my horse-drawn 32bit carriage is faster than your new fangled gasoline powered 64 bit buggy, mr. ford. after all you are only allowed to go 2 mph and must have a man with a red flag walk in front of you. no need for that expensive machinery. what we have is good enough for me and any right thinking horse lover. it'll never catch on. no one will buy a buggy whip for that iron beast, so why bother making auto-mobiles for the masses, mr. ford. buggy whips will be around forever, mark my words.

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Post Posted January 22nd, 2013, 1:37 am

kronckew wrote:my horse-drawn 32bit carriage is faster than your new fangled gasoline powered 64 bit buggy, mr. ford. after all you are only allowed to go 2 mph and must have a man with a red flag walk in front of you. no need for that expensive machinery. what we have is good enough for me and any right thinking horse lover. it'll never catch on. no one will buy a buggy whip for that iron beast, so why bother making auto-mobiles for the masses, mr. ford. buggy whips will be around forever, mark my words.

-melvin whinney, CEO of melvin's buggy whip company.


No, its more like this:

Why are you building houses much bigger then necessary for a family of 4? Sure it means you can entertain a ton of guests (use more then 1000 tabs etc), but it uses much much more wood and materials (higher memory usage on smaller workloads), isn't heated as effectively and the power bill is enormous (less optimized at the moment) and the cat gets lost (32bit users - lots of corporates, old PC's).

But hey, the more rooms the merrier right?
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Post Posted January 22nd, 2013, 7:58 am

some people live in bigger houses with lots of rooms, with lots of heating and lighting, servants and guards, and big yards for the dressage horses and polo ponies. because they can.

like al gore's house. :) or vladimir putin's or barrack obama's. my favourite is queen elizabeth II's little get-away in windsor. i'm fond of castles.
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Post Posted January 22nd, 2013, 8:14 am

Most real-world analogies don't work with software. In the first place, there's no proof except for the 4GB limit about 64bit Fx builds being superior to 32bit ones so analogies comparing dwelling size or automobile speed with "bitness" are invalid. Bickering in this thread will only result in it being locked.
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Post Posted January 22nd, 2013, 1:24 pm

Then I guess you both should stop the madness.
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Post Posted January 23rd, 2013, 5:43 am

What will happen to Waterfox then?

http://www.waterfoxproject.org/

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Post Posted January 23rd, 2013, 6:21 am

I guess the optimized browser will suffer an unforeseen... deoptimization.
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Post Posted January 23rd, 2013, 8:50 am

In the hopes of getting this thread back on track...

Does anyone have a clear picture on what exactly broke the updates for Nightly 64-bit back on 2013-01-09?

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Post Posted January 23rd, 2013, 10:51 am

So much 64bit hate... :cry:

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Post Posted January 23rd, 2013, 11:13 am

Virtual_ManPL wrote:So much 64bit hate... :cry:


Typical for the 32-bit Inquisition!
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Post Posted January 23rd, 2013, 11:15 am

ferongr wrote:I guess the optimized browser will suffer an unforeseen... deoptimization.


Weird, it creams normal Firefox in PDF.js....
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Post Posted January 23rd, 2013, 11:34 am

Waterfox would be OK if it did not take up you Firefox profile. Palemoon 64 Bit doesn't do that unless you download a migration tool.

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