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Post Posted January 18th, 2013, 7:32 am

JoeG wrote:
speciesx wrote:But the win64 build would be still broken.
:?:
Ummmm, so what is it that Alice is referring to that she said will be fixed? And where can the Winx64 PGO build be downloaded, please?


Bug #830594 fix only the compiler bug, the generated Win64 PGO builds would be still broken.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=830676
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=831240
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=831245
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Post Posted January 18th, 2013, 7:53 am

speciesx wrote:Bug #830594 fix only the compiler bug, the generated Win64 PGO builds would be still broken.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=830676
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=831240
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=831245
What about the non-PGO builds? Have the recent x64 channel Nightlies that worked (09 Jan) been PGO?

Thanks very much.
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Post Posted January 18th, 2013, 8:11 am

JoeG wrote:
speciesx wrote:Bug #830594 fix only the compiler bug, the generated Win64 PGO builds would be still broken.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=830676
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=831240
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=831245
What about the non-PGO builds? Have the recent x64 channel Nightlies that worked (09 Jan) been PGO?

Thanks very much.


ALL Nightly builds are PGO. (well with exception of Mac & Linux as I recall)

PGO builds appear to be broken still.

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Post Posted January 18th, 2013, 8:14 am

JoeG wrote:
speciesx wrote:Bug #830594 fix only the compiler bug, the generated Win64 PGO builds would be still broken.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=830676
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=831240
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=831245
What about the non-PGO builds? Have the recent x64 channel Nightlies that worked (09 Jan) been PGO?

Thanks very much.


This is the last working non-PGO Win64 build.
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/ ... 358267836/
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Post Posted January 18th, 2013, 8:33 am

OK, thanks, but I'm still not sure where all this leaves us on the Nightly that's distributed through the regular update channel.
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Post Posted January 18th, 2013, 8:51 am

JoeG wrote:OK, thanks, but I'm still not sure where all this leaves us on the Nightly that's distributed through the regular update channel.


It leaves you with NO Nightly updates at the present time, Nightly's are still broken because PGO builds are still broken. Non-PGO Nightly's have never been built on Windows as far as I know.

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Post Posted January 18th, 2013, 8:58 am

TheVisitor wrote:
JoeG wrote:OK, thanks, but I'm still not sure where all this leaves us on the Nightly that's distributed through the regular update channel.


It leaves you with NO Nightly updates at the present time, Nightly's are still broken because PGO builds are still broken. Non-PGO Nightly's have never been built on Windows as far as I know.


Win64 opt and Win64 pgo are both broken.
Win64 opt
Win64 pgo
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Post Posted January 18th, 2013, 9:10 am

OK, thanks.
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Post Posted January 18th, 2013, 10:06 am

From https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=814009#c50
Ben Hearsum [:bhearsum] 2013-01-17 07:08:24 PST

(In reply to alex_mayorga from comment #49)
> Should I file a separate bug for the lack of updates since Mozilla/5.0
> (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:21.0) Gecko/20130109 Firefox/21.0
> ID:20130109030942 ?

There's no updates because the builds are broken. Looks like that's https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=829738 or https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=745093.

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Post Posted January 19th, 2013, 5:07 pm

Grantius wrote:This argument has been well and truly played out, but I think the large amount of people on 64bit builds are because they think it's somehow better, because 64bit sounds better then "Old" 32bit.


The 64-bit build might not be faster as the 32-bit builds, but definitely less laggy!


Image
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Here my current session with 52 tabs with flash Videos, only one video is played and the other 51 not even loaded. With the 64-bit i have no flash crashes or lags, but with the 32-bit build the video runs with low fps (15-20 fps). On youtube i get the same behavior with less than 20 tabs.
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Post Posted January 19th, 2013, 5:43 pm

There was another successful PGO build today but same issue, I lose my New Tab thumbs and it starts with only the Start Page Tab.

After reinstalling the PGO build from the 9th, I was again prompted for a computer restart. Afterward, all is well again ... thumbs are back on the New Tab page and my previously saved tabs are restored.

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Post Posted January 19th, 2013, 5:49 pm

mdleers wrote:There was another successful PGO build today but same issue, I lose my New Tab thumbs and it starts with only the Start Page Tab.

After reinstalling the PGO build from the 9th, I was again prompted for a computer restart. Afterward, all is well again ... thumbs are back on the New Tab page and my previously saved tabs are restored.


viewtopic.php?p=12611579#p12611579
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Post Posted January 19th, 2013, 5:54 pm

speciesx wrote:
mdleers wrote:There was another successful PGO build today but same issue, I lose my New Tab thumbs and it starts with only the Start Page Tab.

After reinstalling the PGO build from the 9th, I was again prompted for a computer restart. Afterward, all is well again ... thumbs are back on the New Tab page and my previously saved tabs are restored.

viewtopic.php?p=12611579#p12611579

Thanks, speciesx. Image
I'm just mentioning they are still broken in the same way ... I'll keep trying as new builds emerge, with my fingers crossed. :)

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Post Posted January 19th, 2013, 7:15 pm

speciesx wrote:
Grantius wrote:This argument has been well and truly played out, but I think the large amount of people on 64bit builds are because they think it's somehow better, because 64bit sounds better then "Old" 32bit.


The 64-bit build might not be faster as the 32-bit builds, but definitely less laggy!


Image
Image

Here my current session with 52 tabs with flash Videos, only one video is played and the other 51 not even loaded. With the 64-bit i have no flash crashes or lags, but with the 32-bit build the video runs with low fps (15-20 fps). On youtube i get the same behavior with less than 20 tabs.

Ditto.

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Post Posted January 19th, 2013, 8:05 pm

mdleers wrote:
speciesx wrote:
Grantius wrote:This argument has been well and truly played out, but I think the large amount of people on 64bit builds are because they think it's somehow better, because 64bit sounds better then "Old" 32bit.


The 64-bit build might not be faster as the 32-bit builds, but definitely less laggy!


Image
Image

Here my current session with 52 tabs with flash Videos, only one video is played and the other 51 not even loaded. With the 64-bit i have no flash crashes or lags, but with the 32-bit build the video runs with low fps (15-20 fps). On youtube i get the same behavior with less than 20 tabs.

Ditto.



When I used 64bit nightly, and then switched back to 32bit, I noticed it was much faster. even with ~200 tabs open, and 2GB RAM usage 32bit just doesn't stop.
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