Official 0.7 RELEASE CANDIDATES for Windows and Linux

whalesong · Post by **whalesong** » October 1st, 2003, 7:36 am

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> (And why on earth do I see a post on bundling flash as the topic review???

forget about this last one, now I've seen "the light" - or at least the last post on the thread ;-)

Kind regards,

Ingo

MORA · Post by **MORA** » October 1st, 2003, 9:14 am

R@F wrote:
MORA wrote:It's unfortunate that the texturizer extensions-page doesn't contain links to these plugins. Even worse, that page says that extensions are plug-ins, but it fails to mention that not all plug-ins are extensions.
Ok. it's not on the extension page, but it can be found on texturizer here

I know. I just think it's unfortunate that a page which handles extensions (and calls them 'plug-ins') doesn't also contain explicit links to 3rd-party plug-ins. Remember that the extensions page is directly accessible from Firebird's tools > options > extensions menu, whereas the page you are referring to is not.

Of course, this is all a bit off-topic, as it deals with the Firebird documentation, rather than the browser itself. Documentation is going to be increasingly important, as Firebird slowly progresses to 1.0, though.

amano · Post by **amano** » October 1st, 2003, 9:52 am

Mat wrote:
oliversl wrote:It would be nice to have the Flash plugin shipped with the 0.7 release.

No Dont!

Flash is the first thing i remove from my Opera Installation. (every Opera installer installs the Netscape Flash Plugin)

make it optional.

Lyx · Post by **Lyx** » October 1st, 2003, 5:22 pm

if flash would be bundled together with firebird, i would never again use an official FB build, and only use unofficial ones(withouth flash).

To be honest, i even wouldn't download it, if it was optional but bundled. To me, a web-developer and web-veteran, flash is a sickness! No website should force visitors to download anything to view the site. If i would want to watch a movie, i'd use tv for that, instead of visiting a flash-site.

- Lyx

sensemann · Post by **sensemann** » October 2nd, 2003, 1:40 am

flash is not the devil, guys

anyways, it shouldn't be included right now, but it would be nice if there would be an option later when Fb has an installer - like for other things too.

mr magoo · Post by **mr magoo** » October 2nd, 2003, 8:10 am

lynx, flash is in 98% percent of browsers accross the world. how can you possibly be a "web veteran" and still hold this dated view on flash! It's an enhancement, that greatly adds to websites, and to be frank, if you dont like it, don't visit the websites that use it! Your suggestion that "No website should force visitors to download anything to view the site" is rediculous- are you saying that Acrobat files, Ms Word, Zip files, Rar files (the list goes on) are all evil, and shouldn't be allowed?

:S

ps- .7 rocks! thanks devs.

ogden2k · Post by **ogden2k** » October 2nd, 2003, 9:45 am

Why no release notes and why hasn't the Firebird page been updated?

Mat · Post by **Mat** » October 2nd, 2003, 11:58 am

mr magoo wrote:lynx, flash is in 98% percent of browsers accross the world. how can you possibly be a "web veteran" and still hold this dated view on flash! It's an enhancement, that greatly adds to websites, and to be frank, if you dont like it, don't visit the websites that use it! Your suggestion that "No website should force visitors to download anything to view the site" is rediculous- are you saying that Acrobat files, Ms Word, Zip files, Rar files (the list goes on) are all evil, and shouldn't be allowed?

My personal view on Flash (as an end user) is: it shows me annoying Ads and not much more

I've removed Flash from Firebird and dont miss it. Ok. Anand has their Benchmark graphs now as Flash movie for some reason.
The only nice thing about Flash are those funny movies. (and sometimes a presentation)

Post by **Nitin** » October 2nd, 2003, 12:14 pm

mr magoo wrote:lynx, flash is in 98% percent of browsers accross the world. how can you possibly be a "web veteran" and still hold this dated view on flash! It's an enhancement, that greatly adds to websites, and to be frank, if you dont like it, don't visit the websites that use it!

This is getting OT (but I'm not a moderator here and cant split the thread) - so I'll add my view on flash here too.

Personally, I've not found a single website that had useful content in flash. Most sites like the inquirer use flash for displaying ads. Anandtech does use flash for displaying benchmarks, which could have been better shown as JPG images! I suspect he wants his visitors to use flash, because he has more than two annoying flash ads on every page.

Regarding your suggestion of not visiting sites that use flash - i would if i could. I find ads annoying - are you saying I should stop visiting every site that uses ads? No, I use usercontent.css blocking in firebird. Similiarily I use flash blocking in firebird (by not downloading it)

Flash Click to View is a great extension, but I prefer not to download flash at all.

Post by **Nitin** » October 2nd, 2003, 12:27 pm

Back ON topic, 0.7RC suffers from this bug
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=220022

Password manager forgets password after logout and re-login (only for sites that popup a http authentication prompt)
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment. ... ction=view

Post by **shadytrees** » October 2nd, 2003, 1:19 pm

ogden2k wrote:Why no release notes and why hasn't the Firebird page been updated?

It's still an RC, not an official release.

deviltje · Post by **deviltje** » October 2nd, 2003, 1:51 pm

I don't think flash is a sickness... but it is being abused

would be nice if svg would be added to firebird

Beartooth · Post by **Beartooth** » October 2nd, 2003, 2:00 pm

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firebird/nightly/latest-0.7/ offers two versions for linux, namely MozillaFirebird-i686-linux-gtk2+xft.tar.gz or alternatively
MozillaFirebird-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.gz

So which is RedHat9?? Or in what other way do I tell which to get??

slippytoad · Post by **slippytoad** » October 2nd, 2003, 2:06 pm

One uses Xft font library to display nice anti-aliased fonts and the other doesn't.

Äkiidoll · Post by **Äkiidoll** » October 2nd, 2003, 2:55 pm

mrjean wrote:For the last months my FB has been crashing when I visit www.wikipedia.org. I've reported this before but then no one else had this problem.

Does wikipedia.org still works smoothly for everyone else?

Win XP SP1
Clean install & new profile
No extensions

I hit about 15 links in the web site with no
problems. Seems stable.

Geck0 r0cks

Aebrahim G7 http://pryan.org/firebird/aebrahim/
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030903 Firebird/0.6.1+

Official 0.7 RELEASE CANDIDATES for Windows and Linux

Re: Official 0.7 RELEASE CANDIDATES for Windows and Linux

VVDQ : which linux?

They should both work on RH9.