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Post Posted July 1st, 2013, 4:41 pm

Assuming that they would back out and merge back the day the train leaves, there wouldn't be any breakage because the nightlies wouldn't have a chance to spin in the timeframe.
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Post Posted July 2nd, 2013, 12:11 am

We're planning to land in 25, but also to back-out immediately after the
uplift to Aurora (Aug 5th). Australis will stay on mozilla-central
(only) until Firefox 26 uplifts to Aurora (Sep 16th), with intent to
ride the 26 train thru to release. In other words, Australis will be in
Firefox 25 Nightly builds soon, but will not go to Firefox 25 Aurora (or
Beta, or Release). That gives ~10 weeks of m-c bake time before 26
uplift, instead of the ~4 we have for 25.

https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/fire ... 00475.html
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Post Posted July 2nd, 2013, 12:29 am

I somehow doubt this is going to end well :).
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Post Posted July 2nd, 2013, 12:43 am

How dare they make sure things are working before moving on to more stable development channels! The absolute nerve!

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Post Posted July 2nd, 2013, 1:34 am

The following part is interesting:
Getting Australis into
mozilla-central will spur on add-on developers to make fixes in a way
that lingering on a project branch won't.

How many addon-devs are actually keeping their addons/extensions/plugins/applepies compatible with nightly?
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Post Posted July 2nd, 2013, 2:05 am

Elbart wrote:The following part is interesting:
Getting Australis into
mozilla-central will spur on add-on developers to make fixes in a way
that lingering on a project branch won't.

How many addon-devs are actually keeping their addons/extensions/plugins/applepies compatible with nightly?

More than the ones that keep their addons/extensions/plugins/applepies compatible with ux-branch... :-"

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Post Posted July 2nd, 2013, 2:17 am

So about 5% :roll:
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Post Posted July 2nd, 2013, 3:54 am

JayhawksRock wrote:As of now there are 15,490,695 users of Ad Block Plus the most used extension. According to Mozilla, Firefox counts over 450 million users around the world at the end of 2012... You do the math.


That's a very good point indeed,kinda puts in perspective how far we can be from average on this forum -however,you kinda missed the point of my question:how many people,given the choice,would opt for Australis over our current Firefox,in the assumption that it "fixes" so many "issues" of the current browser?

The truth being,IMHO,that it would be foisted on us all ("average" or "experienced") and no one will have the choice to really evaluate if it is really needed or it is better than the current release in any way.

They are even backpedalling on the few things that actually were an improvement,like click-to-play:before the user base has a chance to use it,someone has already come up with the idea that it may be "too complicated" and now they're going to ruin it for this assumption ](*,)

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Post Posted July 2nd, 2013, 3:58 am

Actually it doesn't make much sense to keep an add-on compatible to ux-branch. By the time an uploaded add-on version (day abc) gets reviewed (day abc + x days) it doesn't work properly with the latest ux version anyway. I wanted to keep my theme compatible to UX. That for I had to change btw. update the code for 'Customize' area and panel menu at least once a week. It was not worth the effort, so I dropped it.

The funny part (for theme devs) will be after Australis enters 25 nightly channel and gets removed again on aurora channel. How to keep it compatible with two 'different' 25 versions, the upcoming nightly 25 and aurora 25 in about a month?

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Post Posted July 2nd, 2013, 4:22 am

That's easy, don't update them for Nightly. Park on Aurora.
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Post Posted July 4th, 2013, 9:58 pm

Can anybody provide a update of the status of Australis?

There have been no meetings the last 2 weeks because of several reasons

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Austra ... ting_Notes

Why aren't the meetings rescheduled to the day after? 2 weeks no update is a long time...
Would be nice to know what progress and forecast is

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Post Posted July 5th, 2013, 4:19 am

I was just wanting to know If they are going to keep the menu bar In Firefox Australis.

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Post Posted July 5th, 2013, 6:34 am

casper1975 wrote:I was just wanting to know If they are going to keep the menu bar In Firefox Australis.


Yes... Menu bar will stay in Australis... for now... but who knows when they change their mind and also removed this feature :D
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Post Posted July 5th, 2013, 9:42 am

If they remove the menu bar, then they will have to find new homes for some of the items that currently aren't duplicated anywhere else.
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Post Posted July 5th, 2013, 2:02 pm

If they remove the menu bar, then they will have to find new homes for some of the items that currently aren't duplicated anywhere else.


Or they could use that great one-liner that seems to be their favorite.

'It was too complicated for the average user and is now more suited to an addon!'
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