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Post Posted July 18th, 2013, 6:04 am

Just in case some of you missed this, in the thread http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=2729381, Aris kindly posted an edit for the userChrome.css file that will get the findbar back to the bottom. It works in both the 32 and 64-bit Nightlies.
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*/
.browserContainer > findbar{
  -moz-box-ordinal-group: 10 !important;
}
/*
Since the findbar relocation hasn't moved beyond the Nightly yet, I guess it's premature asking for someone to turn this into an extension.

Having said this, though, the fact that https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=893013 has been marked WONTFIX, suggests it might be time for someone who knows how to start thinking about it. :!:
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Post Posted July 18th, 2013, 7:40 am

I'm having trouble finding the reason for moving it to the top in the first place...
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Post Posted July 18th, 2013, 7:49 am

Caspid wrote:I'm having trouble finding the reason for moving it to the top in the first place...
You're certainly not alone, but it's another one of those "nobody asked you" decisions the devs seem so fond of lately.

If you have the time and interest, please read through the comments to the bug I've cited above. It reveals the "logic" (and I use the term loosely here) behind the concept.

The most recent of the comments as of this moment (made by "randyzie") sums up a lot of people's opinions, but of course they're just opinions.

randyzie 2013-07-18 07:59:55 PDT
(In reply to Mike de Boer [:mikedeboer] from comment #10)
> Thank you for your understanding.

What understanding? You're making another stupid UI decision, what else is there to understand?
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Post Posted July 18th, 2013, 7:57 am

Caspid wrote:I'm having trouble finding the reason for moving it to the top in the first place...


I really like new position of find bar, all relevant controls in my setup (pretty similar to default one) are on the upper part, so bottom placed find bar was out-of-place.

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Post Posted July 18th, 2013, 9:06 am

JoeG wrote:Since the findbar relocation hasn't moved beyond the Nightly yet, I guess it's premature asking for someone to turn this into an extension.


It will be part of my extension to revert some ui parts once Australis lands on nightly channel.

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Although I don't like almost all GUI changes they did after Firefox 7, placing findbar on top is the first one I can live with.


Caspid wrote:I'm having trouble finding the reason for moving it to the top in the first place...

My guess on this is to have less differences between Firefox, Chrome and Opera. Somewhere in the near future: Firefox 3x-4x = Chrome 4x = Opera 2x.
No reason to use any specific browser anymore, if all of them look, feel and do the same.


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After all changes they made I still cannot understand why such ui changes are not optional and why they do not provide two or three default themes like in Seamonkey (-> Seamonkey modern / Seamonkey default).
I bet most users would be happy to decide between Fx4-7 theme, Fx14-2x(pre Australis) theme and the upcoming Australis ui (where most ugly ui changes are from).
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Post Posted July 18th, 2013, 9:14 am

If you use the find as you type option having the page shift down in order to accommodate the find bar on top is disconcerting. Perhaps it should just overlay what is there instead of shifting the page, that's what having it on the bottom does.
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Post Posted July 18th, 2013, 9:21 am

streetwolf wrote:If you use the find as you type option having the page shift down in order to accommodate the find bar on top is disconcerting. Perhaps it should just overlay what is there instead of shifting the page, that's what having it on the bottom does.


If they can get this done it won't be near as bad..
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=777525 <from the bug comment #32

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Post Posted July 18th, 2013, 2:35 pm

In the name of choice, here's a contribution that was made to the page where I filed the bug regarding the findbar.
Pache 2013-07-18 13:55:26 PDT
...
Thanks for sharing that code! I added a small customization to it.
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*/
.browserContainer > findbar{
  -moz-box-ordinal-group: 10 !important;
}
.findbar-closebutton {
  margin-right: 1400px !important
}
.findbar-textbox {
  width: 30em !important;
}
/*
Looking a lot better now.
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Post Posted July 18th, 2013, 4:13 pm

@JoeG
In case findbars close button should be on the left:

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.browserContainer > findbar{
  -moz-box-ordinal-group: 10 !important;
}
.findbar-closebutton {
  -moz-box-ordinal-group: 0 !important;
  margin-left:-8px !important;
}
.findbar-textbox {
  width: 30em !important;
}
.findbar-case-sensitive {
  margin-right: 1400px !important;
}

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Post Posted July 18th, 2013, 9:45 pm

this no-restart addon makes the whole experience much better
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... bar-tweak/
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Post Posted July 18th, 2013, 11:19 pm

StyleThing wrote:this no-restart addon makes the whole experience much better
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... bar-tweak/
Thanks. The feature I really like is "typing Ctrl+f again closes the findbar."
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Post Posted July 19th, 2013, 7:12 am

Aris wrote:Although I don't like almost all GUI changes they did after Firefox 7, placing findbar on top is the first one I can live with.


I'll second that,of all the annoying/disruptive changes coming with Australis (lack of the addon bar comes to mind first),moving the find bar on top looks like a smart one-frankly,I've moved the find bar on top a while ago,either using an userChrome or an addon.

Aris wrote:After all changes they made I still cannot understand why such ui changes are not optional

And I'd agree with this even more:why such changes have to be imposed? Why can't we have toggles in the GUI or at least preferences in about:config for the find bar,the addon bar and the likes?

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Post Posted August 4th, 2013, 2:57 pm

TheVisitor wrote:
streetwolf wrote:If you use the find as you type option having the page shift down in order to accommodate the find bar on top is disconcerting. Perhaps it should just overlay what is there instead of shifting the page, that's what having it on the bottom does.


If they can get this done it won't be near as bad..
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=777525 <from the bug comment #32

Probably because I don't use the Find function very much, I don't find this change all that upsetting. In fact, it may make more sense since most other things like toolbar buttons and the address/URL bar are at the top, why shouldn't the Find bar be there, too? If they can make it like the graphic linked to above, so much the better. 8-)
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Post Posted August 4th, 2013, 5:08 pm

malliz wrote:Your link is borked Ray try
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=893446#c32

I think TheVisitor linked intentionally to the graphic and not the comment. I only posted my thoughts, but thanks anyway. =D>
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