Yes! 64-bit Firefox for Windows on its way

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Re: Yes! 64-bit Firefox for Windows on its way

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AnotherLife wrote:How is the memory usage compared to x86?


64-bit software uses a bit more memory on average. I would have zero doubts that it used a bit more compared to 32-bit.
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I have 64-bit Nightly and 32-bit Aurora. The difference in memory use is pretty small, 64-bit uses just a little bit more.
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Anyone figure out what version you get where? Do you only get PGO from tinderbox? Or nightly too?
Where does it auto update to? Does it stay on PGO when it updates?

Can I prevent it from auto updating even when I view the about page? It's super annoying. Since there isn't a localized build I have to install it separately. But since localization is done super crappily I the browser fails to start with a useless XML parsing error when even a single string missing. (It seems so anyway) The localization also doesn't auto update either so I have to update it manually in safe mode or delete it from the profile to update.
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Sure, you can turn off auto-updating. Go to Options > Advanced > Update to set that. I have mine set to search for updates and ask me what to do, instead of the default setting of installing automatically.
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Any particular reason why l10n builds don't have win64?
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resources. they don't want to devote the cpu time to do more than the one nightly x64 test build set. they think we are lucky they threw us the scrap of that.
the fact that most win7, win8+ OS sales are x64 and most new pcs are multi-core with large ram capacity has not sunk in to them yet.

fully optimizing for the extra memory, larger variables, and low level codes. etc. is too much like work, so they leave that to 3rd party builders. the pgo builds is a s close as mozilla gets.
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kronckew wrote:resources. they don't want to devote the cpu time to do more than the one nightly x64 test build set. they think we are lucky they threw us the scrap of that.
the fact that most win7, win8+ OS sales are x64 and most new pcs are multi-core with large ram capacity has not sunk in to them yet.

is too much like work, so they leave that to 3rd party builders. the pgo builds is a s close as mozilla gets.

And it seems like to me we only get PGO builds on tinderbox and not nightly.

fully optimizing for the extra memory, larger variables, and low level codes. etc.

Which ones are doing that? I got the feeling that third party builders are mainly just working with compiler optimizations.
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Have Mozilla yet to release a 64-build or do i still have to continue to run 64-bit palemoon?

Once you go 64-bit you can never go back, especially when you have lots of ram and things runs alot smoother with 64-bit than with 32-bit like flash.
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Klappis wrote:Have Mozilla yet to release a 64-build or do i still have to continue to run 64-bit palemoon?

Once you go 64-bit you can never go back, especially when you have lots of ram and things runs alot smoother with 64-bit than with 32-bit like flash.

You don't have to do anything. You can use a variety of 64 bit builds such as pcxfirefox
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This is not the third party build thread
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Can we get back on topic please. Thanks.
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x64 now available @ https://nightly.mozilla.org/
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AnotherLife wrote:How is the memory usage compared to x86?


Oh, nothing scientific...

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firefox-36.0a1.en-US.win32.installer.exe, 11/28/2014
Private byte: 1905 MB   Working Set: 2745 MB

firefox-36.0a1.en-US.win64-x86_64.installer.exe, 11/28/2014
Private byte: 2824 MB   Working Set: 3632 MB

So in absolute memory numbers, in the situation described, x64 uses a LOT more memory then x86.
But that in & of itself means nothing.

Win7 x64, 16 GB RAM

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(My situation is not typical ;-).)

Edit: Edited to appease some :-).
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How about using the correct quote method just for a change I know you know how and honestly your last post is pointless without attribution
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