Extension signing enforcement delayed

Discussion about official Mozilla Firefox builds
User avatar
Drumbrake
Posts: 1177
Joined: February 14th, 2011, 2:34 am

Re: Extension signing enforcement delayed

Post by Drumbrake »

We’re adding a feature in Firefox 45 that allows temporarily loading unsigned restartless add-ons in release, which will allow developers of those add-ons to use Firefox for testing, and we’d like this option to be available when we remove the preference
So much for "unbranded builds"? Just "temporarily loading unsigned restartless add-ons" ? Really ?
Mouse5
Posts: 1279
Joined: April 11th, 2014, 7:34 pm
Location: Sydney Australia

Re: Extension signing enforcement delayed

Post by Mouse5 »

i cant see Firefox remaining in the top 4 Browser Market once the perm remove that pref
lithopsian
Posts: 3664
Joined: September 15th, 2010, 9:03 am

Re: Extension signing enforcement delayed

Post by lithopsian »

Temporary in this context means you have to load the addon explicitly every time you start Firefox. Talk about making policy on the hoof.

And only restartless? Overlay addons are starting to be deprecated already?
User avatar
Benjamin Markson
Posts: 397
Joined: November 19th, 2011, 3:57 am
Location: en-GB

Re: Extension signing enforcement delayed

Post by Benjamin Markson »

James wrote:https://wiki.mozilla.org/Addons/Extensi ... g#Timeline
Firefox 40-42: Firefox warns about signatures but doesn't enforce them.
Firefox 43: Firefox will have a preference that allows signature enforcement to be disabled (xpinstall.signatures.required in about:config).
Firefox 46: Release and Beta versions of Firefox will not allow unsigned extensions to be installed, with no override.

https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2016/01 ... ng-update/
Thanks for that. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Addons/Extension_Signing#FAQ still claims:
There will also be special unbranded versions of Release and Beta that will have this setting, so that add-on developers can work on their add-ons without having to sign every build.
And, https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2016/01 ... ng-update/ says:
Kev Needham wrote:Signing will be mandatory in the beta and release versions of Firefox from 46 onwards, at which point unbranded builds based on beta and release will be provided for testing.
...although finding anything substantive about the progress of the 'unbranded' version still eludes me.

Ben.
XUL is dead. Long live the Google Chrome Clones.
User avatar
Drumbrake
Posts: 1177
Joined: February 14th, 2011, 2:34 am

Re: Extension signing enforcement delayed

Post by Drumbrake »

lithopsian wrote:Temporary in this context means you have to load the addon explicitly every time you start Firefox.
Because we haven't been harassed enough so far.
User avatar
WaltS48
Posts: 5141
Joined: May 7th, 2010, 9:38 am
Location: Pennsylvania, USA

Re: Extension signing enforcement delayed

Post by WaltS48 »

Benjamin Markson wrote: And, https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2016/01 ... ng-update/ says:
Kev Needham wrote:Signing will be mandatory in the beta and release versions of Firefox from 46 onwards, at which point unbranded builds based on beta and release will be provided for testing.
...although finding anything substantive about the progress of the 'unbranded' version still eludes me.

Ben.
What progress is required?

When Firefox 46.0 is built with branding, they will also build one without branding.
How will the unbranded versions of Firefox work?

They will work just like Firefox, with two differences: they will have a setting to disable mandatory signature checks, and they will not have the Firefox name and logo (instead using a generic name and logo). They will be available in the en-US locale only.
Seems simple enough.
Linux Desktop - AMD Athlon(tm) II X3 455 3.3GHz | 8.0GB RAM | GeForce GT 630
Windows Notebook - AMD A8 7410 2.2GHz | 6.0GB RAM | AMD Radeon R5
User avatar
Frank Lion
Posts: 21178
Joined: April 23rd, 2004, 6:59 pm
Location: ... The Exorcist....United Kingdom
Contact:

Re: Extension signing enforcement delayed

Post by Frank Lion »

WLS wrote:Seems simple enough.
Everything seems simple enough to Mozilla and to users who don't actually make extensions for Firefox.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke (attrib.)
.
6lobe
Posts: 124
Joined: September 16th, 2014, 8:27 am

Re: Extension signing enforcement delayed

Post by 6lobe »

Frank Lion wrote:
WLS wrote:Seems simple enough.
Everything seems simple enough to Mozilla and to users who don't actually make extensions for Firefox.
Are you suggesting Mozilla should specifically cater for 0.001% of the userbase at the expense of the majority?
User avatar
Frank Lion
Posts: 21178
Joined: April 23rd, 2004, 6:59 pm
Location: ... The Exorcist....United Kingdom
Contact:

Re: Extension signing enforcement delayed

Post by Frank Lion »

6lobe wrote:Are you suggesting Mozilla should specifically cater for 0.001% of the userbase ...?
Like the visually impaired, people with learning difficulties or muscle control problems? Damn right I am. Think before you write.
6lobe wrote:
Frank Lion wrote:
WLS wrote:Seems simple enough.
Everything seems simple enough to Mozilla and to users who don't actually make extensions for Firefox.
Are you suggesting Mozilla should specifically cater for 0.001% of the userbase at the expense of the majority?
I am specifically suggesting that Mozilla should have been catering for the needs of 100% of extension authors at the expense of no one. Blitzing rogue side loading extensions, as we suggested years ago, would have avoided this nonsense.

I'm also suggesting that it's damn easy to be smug and dismissive of timescales if they do not actually affect you at all.

Any more questions or was that it?
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke (attrib.)
.
6lobe
Posts: 124
Joined: September 16th, 2014, 8:27 am

Re: Extension signing enforcement delayed

Post by 6lobe »

If youre angry about a decision lashing out against the developers and the rest of the userbase isnt going to result in anything productive.

Being quiet is the better choice if you dont have anything productive to say.

Its like a lot of people here actively try to kill this browser by driving people away and preventing any collaboration with their constant vitriol.
User avatar
Frank Lion
Posts: 21178
Joined: April 23rd, 2004, 6:59 pm
Location: ... The Exorcist....United Kingdom
Contact:

Re: Extension signing enforcement delayed

Post by Frank Lion »

6lobe wrote:If youre angry
Except that I'm not, just truthful.
6lobe wrote:Being quiet is the better choice if you dont have anything productive to say.
Well, you had better be quiet then, hadn't you? Being productive involves a good bit more than sitting on the sidelines, like halfwits, shouting 'Good job! Good job!' at every silly decision that Mozilla has ever made.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic ... 5#p4700265
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke (attrib.)
.
User avatar
LoudNoise
New Member
Posts: 39900
Joined: October 18th, 2007, 1:45 pm
Location: Next door to the west

Re: Extension signing enforcement delayed

Post by LoudNoise »

Image
Post wrangler
"Choose between the Food Select Feature or other Functions. If no food or function is chosen, Toast is the default."
Mouse5
Posts: 1279
Joined: April 11th, 2014, 7:34 pm
Location: Sydney Australia

Re: Extension signing enforcement delayed

Post by Mouse5 »

6lobe wrote:If youre angry about a decision lashing out against the developers and the rest of the userbase isnt going to result in anything productive.

Being quiet is the better choice if you dont have anything productive to say.

Its like a lot of people here actively try to kill this browser by driving people away and preventing any collaboration with their constant vitriol.
Mozilla devs are the ones driving people away, not the other way around buddy
User avatar
LoudNoise
New Member
Posts: 39900
Joined: October 18th, 2007, 1:45 pm
Location: Next door to the west

Re: Extension signing enforcement delayed

Post by LoudNoise »

i am torn between posting an Eurythmics video or simply ignoring it
Post wrangler
"Choose between the Food Select Feature or other Functions. If no food or function is chosen, Toast is the default."
Post Reply