The Official Win32 20160812 builds are out

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BenYeeHua
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Re: The Official Win32 20160812 builds are not yet out

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Just wonder, did there is any bug about slow down of the e10s?
It is getting worst here, even a single page can be stutter here(page stop animation awhile, but scrolling is not a issues because of APZ)
And I also tried to disable the shims for the extensions, but it still lag. #-o

The about:performance is showing this info...
about:performance may currently be slowing down Nightly.
New Tab may currently be slowing down Nightly.
I don't think it is working properly, if the about:performance itself can slowing down Nightly. ](*,)
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Re: The Official Win32 20160812 builds are not yet out

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BenYeeHua wrote:Just wonder, did there is any bug about slow down of the e10s?
It is getting worst here, even a single page can be stutter here(page stop animation awhile, but scrolling is not a issues because of APZ)
And I also tried to disable the shims for the extensions, but it still lag. #-o

The about:performance is showing this info...
about:performance may currently be slowing down Nightly.
New Tab may currently be slowing down Nightly.
I don't think it is working properly, if the about:performance itself can slowing down Nightly. ](*,)
](*,)
and Mozilla wonder why testers disable e10s and addons developers don't want to waste their time to support it... #-o
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Re: The Official Win32 20160812 builds are not yet out

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AteUte52 wrote:FYI: Update works again...
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/51.0 ID:20160812030200 CSet: 233ab21b64b5d5e9f2f16ea2d4cfb4c8b293c5c4
WLS thanks Callek for re-enabling them. =D>

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/51.0 ID:20160812030200 CSet: 233ab21b64b5d5e9f2f16ea2d4cfb4c8b293c5c4
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Re: The Official Win32 20160812 builds are not yet out

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Filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1294733 Awesomebar search buttons show auto completed text not user input
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Re: The Official Win32 20160812 builds are not yet out

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BenYeeHua wrote:Just wonder, did there is any bug about slow down of the e10s?
It is getting worst here, even a single page can be stutter here(page stop animation awhile, but scrolling is not a issues because of APZ)
And I also tried to disable the shims for the extensions, but it still lag. #-o
Well, I'll just give one example from my own experience: latest Nightly, TreeStyle Tab, uBlock Origin, tracking protection enabled. I open 9 tabs, wait until they load, then open 100 bookmarks at once, switch to the very first tab and measure time until the spinner disappears. Once the page is rendered, I switch to the second, third... ninth tab and do the same thing. According to my estimations, it takes around 3 seconds to render the contents of the first tab and less than a second to render the contents of the other 8 tabs. So it takes me less than 15 seconds to go through all nine tabs. Can you imagine that? 100 tabs loading in the background and it only takes 3 seconds in the worst case to render the tab you need!

So, my opinion is: if you are experiencing slowdowns with e10s, blame addons because Electrolysis can handle LOTS of tabs without problems. Also, even if you disable shims it doesn't mean that e10s-compatible addon can't slow down the browser. I've already seen that with Tab Mix Plus that was supposed to be fully e10s-compatible but actually slowed down Nightly up to 1300% in certain scenarios. However, I no longer observe this performance regression in the latest Nightly. Maybe they tweaked something under the hood, I don't know. AdBlock Plus as another example: it currently uses synchronous content blocking API that makes it MUCH slower than uBlock when loading many tabs at once.

So, my opinion is: e10s is very fast and powerful but addons can slow it down. And you actually got to be a good programmer in order to write an extension that won't cause performance regressions :-"
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Re: The Official Win32 20160812 builds are not yet out

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@ GHM113 - Unfortunately the e10s with even no addons is still slower compared to non-e10s
See:
Bug 1037179 - Loading many (30–60) tabs simultaneously takes almost 2x longer with e10s
Bug 1063169 - (e10s-perf) tracking performance issues with e10s
Bug 1135719 - [e10s] tracking bug for page render times when switching tabs
Bug 1131167 - (e10s-spinner) [e10s] tracking bug for spinner-related issues
etc...

The only win for now what I'm seeing is that with e10s, Firefox feels much snappier and you get smooth scrolling when tabs in background are still loading =D>
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Re: The Official Win32 20160812 builds are out

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