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Post Posted April 11th, 2017, 12:14 am

Hi.
Here is a wider mock-up of the new design.
https://mozilla.invisionapp.com/share/A ... /225203398
Found it on one of bugzilla tickets.

The major thing that makes me sad is that it looks like sub-menus will be accessible only via Click instead of regular hover (there is a separate back button on top of every sub-menu on those screens).
This makes all menus (especially Bookmarks menu) less usable comparing to current implementation.
IMHO for Touch mode such approach sounds logical but for everything else - just weird.

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Post Posted April 11th, 2017, 2:23 am

Acid Crash wrote:Hi.
Here is a wider mock-up of the new design.
https://mozilla.invisionapp.com/share/A ... /225203398
Found it on one of bugzilla tickets.

The major thing that makes me sad is that it looks like sub-menus will be accessible only via Click instead of regular hover (there is a separate back button on top of every sub-menu on those screens).
This makes all menus (especially Bookmarks menu) less usable comparing to current implementation.
IMHO for Touch mode such approach sounds logical but for everything else - just weird.

as i posted, i link new screenshots in the first post, your screenshot/link is not New afaics

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Post Posted April 11th, 2017, 12:58 pm

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1344007#c9
Andreas, are we are of what, if anything, Flashgot are planning for e10s compat?

It's undergoing, even though lagging a bit behind because NoScript is a higher priority.

I don't like this at all. It doesn't make sense to port FlashGot to e10s with WebExtensions API just around the corner. It looks like Maone has to port FG to e10s because WebExtensions API won't be mature enough for extensions like FlashGot, NoScript, Tab Mix Plus, TST, etc in the next 50 years :-"
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Post Posted April 12th, 2017, 1:58 pm

GHM113 wrote:https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1344007#c9
Andreas, are we are of what, if anything, Flashgot are planning for e10s compat?

It's undergoing, even though lagging a bit behind because NoScript is a higher priority.

I don't like this at all. It doesn't make sense to port FlashGot to e10s with WebExtensions API just around the corner. It looks like Maone has to port FG to e10s because WebExtensions API won't be mature enough for extensions like FlashGot, NoScript, Tab Mix Plus, TST, etc in the next 50 years :-"

AFAIK Maone's just always taken his time when it comes to things like rewriting extensions. If DownThemAll can go WebExt then FlashGot will have no problem doing the same.
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Post Posted April 12th, 2017, 9:47 pm

some more photo's of change;s yet to come https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2017/0 ... -issue-14/

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Post Posted April 12th, 2017, 11:38 pm

https://download.servo.org/ have fun

Edit: i'll put the Download link in the First Post also

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Post Posted April 13th, 2017, 1:58 am

https://adblockplus.org/blog/the-plan-t ... =1#c006940
1. Will AdBlock Plus Web Extension finally catch up to uBlock Origin in terms of performance? More info in this bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1280368
2. Will ABP Web Extension differ from ABP e10s in terms of security (ABP WE won’t be able to block something ABP e10s can block, etc)?

1. If you are referring to blocking via observers – yes, there will be no other way with Web Extensions. The bug you are referring to can just as well be resolved, it no longer matters. This directly relates to your second question however.
2. Ideally – no. But that depends on Mozilla to a large part, there are still issues with the Web Extension platform to be resolved. Note that e10s is irrelevant here, classic ABP works the same with e10s both on and off.

As far as I understand that means:
uBlock Origin and AdBlock Plus Web Extension will use similar architecture so ABP will finally catch up to uBO in terms of performance
WebExtensions lack APIs for the most basic functions and actions so it is impossible to port even adblockers to WE without compromises ](*,) :-"
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Post Posted April 13th, 2017, 2:02 am

adblock PLus ? who still uses that?

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Post Posted April 13th, 2017, 2:45 am

Arch5 wrote:adblock PLus ? who still uses that?

Those who don't know about uBlock Origin, of course. I've been using ABP for a long time and uBO is so much faster it is not even funny :-"
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Post Posted April 13th, 2017, 3:03 am

GHM113 wrote:
Arch5 wrote:adblock PLus ? who still uses that?

Those who don't know about uBlock Origin, of course. I've been using ABP for a long time and uBO is so much faster it is not even funny :-"

i think Adblock Plus should Fold an dissapear, its a resource hungry extension

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Post Posted April 13th, 2017, 8:35 am

Arch5 wrote:i think Adblock Plus should Fold an dissapear
So unlike (in your link) advocating killing Firefox devs, you would allow Wladimir to go into exile?
whoever is designing firefox need to be shot or HUNG

Arch5 wrote:adblock PLus ? who still uses that?
Users? 16,729,438 average in last 30 days..including me.
#KeepFightingMichael

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Post Posted April 13th, 2017, 8:55 am

Arch5 wrote:adblock PLus ? who still uses that?

Oops, just switched to UblockOrigin. Thank you!

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Post Posted April 13th, 2017, 3:04 pm

mightyglydd wrote:
Arch5 wrote:i think Adblock Plus should Fold an dissapear
So unlike (in your link) advocating killing Firefox devs, you would allow Wladimir to go into exile?
whoever is designing firefox need to be shot or HUNG

Arch5 wrote:adblock PLus ? who still uses that?
Users? 16,729,438 average in last 30 days..including me.

afaik, there is No WebExtension for the new Firefox out yet correct me if im wrong. however there is for Ublock Origin . there has been for some releases now. Ublock uses the same Filters as Adblock Plus does. but is less resource hungry

just because i said thaty, doesnt mean im still gonna make firefox my Primrary Browser when 57 hits release channel

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Post Posted April 14th, 2017, 12:31 am

Arch5 wrote:afaik, there is No WebExtension for the new Firefox out yet correct me if im wrong

https://downloads.adblockplus.org/devbu ... usfirefox/
:-"
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Post Posted April 14th, 2017, 1:23 am

GHM113 wrote:
Arch5 wrote:afaik, there is No WebExtension for the new Firefox out yet correct me if im wrong

https://downloads.adblockplus.org/devbu ... usfirefox/
:-"

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