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Post Posted April 20th, 2017, 7:56 am

Lurtz wrote:
Arch5 wrote:there is no more AURORA CHANNEL . Aurora was merged to the Beta channel so you'll get the fix's there

this Thread could possibly be Closed now IMO

What are these builds then?
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox ... la-aurora/

54.0a2 with timestamp from today. Are these already basically beta builds?

They are automation builds, not delivered as updates or new installs. Expect some release engineer to turn off the task at some point that makes them.

Currently available is candidate build1 but it has yet to be tested by QA. Just have to wait a while.
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases/Firefox_54/Test_Plan

Last entry updating source for aurora is 18th
https://treeherder.mozilla.org/#/jobs?r ... lla-aurora

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Post Posted April 23rd, 2017, 3:51 am

Based on the recent "dawn"-related tasks and discussion in Bugzilla, it sounds to me that we Aurora users have been left in limbo for a while. Mozilla first decided to remove Aurora from the development train, which would have been rather straightforward, as Aurora users would have been just combined into beta population.

(The negative aspect of the change is possibly the slow fixing of new bugs after the version bump / merge, but that could have been handled by shortening the interval between the first 2-3 beta builds after the merge.)

But now they have got second thoughts and Aurora users = Developer Edition users will be kept in a separate pool inside beta channel and will retain some DevEdition branding, preferences etc. and will have separate binaries.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.c ... 353825#c30

That looks like an own goal. Now they have to design & add quite much new functionality to the beta process. It sounds like there will be beta and Aurora side-on-side, and Aurora is called devedition-beta.

My guess is that Aurora users will be stuck with the last 54.0a2 build for a some time, before Mozilla gets the new specific update path ready. The main task for this change has a dozen of nested sub-tasks...
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1353825

I doubt that they will be ready for b1 release, maybe for b3...

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Post Posted April 23rd, 2017, 9:13 am

Okay, so after moving to Nightly from Aurora keeping only key3.db, logins.json, places.sqlite I've noticed much slower program startup (I have 2 pinned tabs that aren't needed to be loaded instantly and about:newtab as homepage...) and seriously regressed scrolling performance... I also noticed sites with heavy content seems to be able to interacted with quicker but page loading takes longer to fully render the page. I'm not so sure it was a good idea moving to nightly and might have to settle for beta...

@HN_FIN, would would even be the difference though?

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Post Posted April 23rd, 2017, 11:32 pm

Nightly is unstable every now and then, as it has daily new features that may break some things. Aurora has been stable for 99% of the time (except maybe a few times after merge bump from nightly) and beta has been superstable (being Aurora of the previous cycle).

In the new setup beta will be like previous Aurora, but as there are no daily builds, the first few beta versions after the each merge bump may be sightly more unstable (as bug fixes can be delivered only weekly or so).

Personally I will be moving to beta.

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Post Posted May 25th, 2017, 1:56 am

Okay. So what became of Aurora/Developer edition? I see that Aurora stopped updating.
What happened with the the Dev edition stuff? I don't see anything on https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/nightly/

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Post Posted May 25th, 2017, 3:30 am

avada wrote:Okay. So what became of Aurora/Developer edition? I see that Aurora stopped updating.
What happened with the the Dev edition stuff? I don't see anything on https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/nightly/

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1353825
Mozilla is still preparing to migrate aurora users to beta channel.
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Post Posted May 25th, 2017, 3:54 am

GHM113 wrote:
avada wrote:Okay. So what became of Aurora/Developer edition? I see that Aurora stopped updating.
What happened with the the Dev edition stuff? I don't see anything on https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/nightly/

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1353825
Mozilla is still preparing to migrate aurora users to beta channel.

But what about those who aren't migrating? It'd be strange if only past aurora aurora users (who remained on a non-updating channel) had access.

Will they replace the aurora update channel with a new one? Or will they release Dev edition builds beside beta releases?
Or better yet is there any point in continuing to use Dev edition if it's the same as beta?

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Post Posted May 25th, 2017, 4:15 am

avada wrote:But what about those who aren't migrating? It'd be strange if only past aurora aurora users (who remained on a non-updating channel) had access.

Will they replace the aurora update channel with a new one? Or will they release Dev edition builds beside beta releases?
Or better yet is there any point in continuing to use Dev edition if it's the same as beta?

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.c ... 353825#c39
1) We would like to push the DevEd build to an early beta audience as part of the Beta staged rollout. This is needed to stabilize quality and crash rates before pushing beta builds to 100% of beta end-usres.

So basically Mozilla will use the following release model: Nightly -> DevEd aka Beta Stage 0 -> Beta -> Release
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Post Posted May 25th, 2017, 9:39 am

Aurora/Developer Edition users should migrate by themselves, to Nightly or Beta, if they are not done it already...
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Post Posted May 25th, 2017, 11:42 pm

i dont see why people are writing about this when all they had to do was download the Beta an or Nightly which would of been quicker to do that than complain

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Post Posted May 26th, 2017, 9:17 am

avada wrote:Okay. So what became of Aurora/Developer edition? I see that Aurora stopped updating.
What happened with the the Dev edition stuff? I don't see anything on https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/nightly/


If you have the Developer version installed, do a Help > About update and you will be updated to the 54.0 Beta Developer edition. :?

It recently went live. =D>
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Post Posted May 26th, 2017, 10:05 am

If auto update fails for some reason (like happened for me), look here:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/devedition/

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Post Posted May 26th, 2017, 10:10 am

Aris wrote:If auto update fails for some reason (like happened for me), look here:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/devedition/



Thanks! I was looking for that before I asked on IRC how users could get it.

Seems my Linux version isn't updating. :roll:

Might try again later.
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Post Posted May 26th, 2017, 10:22 am

The new beta based DevEdition is not like every other version (Beta, Nightly, Aurora...) in a subfolder of "firefox" on Mozillas FTP, but in an own "devedition" folder.

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http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/
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http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/devedition/
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Post Posted May 26th, 2017, 3:25 pm

Okay, so in conclusion, what differences does it have from normal beta? (Apart from the obvious: branding, icons and the super irritating automatic profile spamming.)

For one it seems like xpinstall.signatures.required;false seems to work, unlike in normal beta.

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