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"AwesomeBar" is totally NOT awesome

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12bando12
 
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Post Posted March 21st, 2008, 4:44 am

You can feel free to delete this, O Great Admins, but I'm putting it in as a new topic because I don't feel it's getting enuf attention. I read many of the posts here that talked about it and some people are just blind to the disaster. So, you should really leave this post, IMHO, and allow some more serious discussion...

The bottomline, as many others have posted here and other places, is that the new autocomplete location bar is a big pain in the buttocks. It's too big, the list does not 'learn' my choices correctly, and it's a total change to browsing habits that is not wanted. This should be an option only.

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Post Posted March 21st, 2008, 4:48 am

Disagree totally, the only thing I would like is for tags to be the top search.
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Post Posted March 21st, 2008, 5:37 am

Recall wrote:Disagree totally, the only thing I would like is for tags to be the top search.


and i disagree with that.

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Post Posted March 21st, 2008, 5:39 am

among many you're one of the few that doesn't like it

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Post Posted March 21st, 2008, 6:05 am

I certainly can't go back to FX2 after using the Awesome bar - being able to dig up any past page without worrying about the specific URL is a revolution in browsing habits. Just give it a few days to get used to it and I don't think you'll be going back either.
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Post Posted March 21st, 2008, 6:08 am

I would have agreed a few months ago and even a few weeks ago (I was a strong hater of the awesomebar) but now it is great. It works perfectly for me! I don't bookmark or tag so I just type a letter or two and the first result is usually the one I wanted.

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Post Posted March 21st, 2008, 6:19 am

It's very useful for surfing in the beautifully enhanced full-screen mode. I imagine it would be quite a hack to show the boomarks menu in full-screen.

I like it.
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Post Posted March 21st, 2008, 6:21 am

Isn't there an extension (Oldbar?) to revert to Fx2 behaviour? But my, you don't know what you're missing out on.

Out of ALL the websites (~15) I visit at least once weekly, only 1 forum-based thread fails to show up at the top when I type the first keyword that comes to my mind.

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Post Posted March 21st, 2008, 11:49 am

I agree with DuncanL. It may not be perfect, it may not be nice, and it may not be done, but I wouldn't want to go back to the old way.

I also want to point out that over the past week, there have been a number of bug-fixes regarding the new URL bar... so f you aren't using the latest nightly. I would suggest it (Though it looks like beta5 will be out in not too long).

Here is basically a summary of the bugs:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=405745
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=393678#c40

And while I haven't used oldbar, the addon page states that it only affects the visual presentation and doesn't change the auto-complete algorithm.
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Post Posted March 21st, 2008, 12:18 pm

Well, I could quite easily go back to the old version.
It was much simpler.

However, the new bar has potential. It is as ugly as hell though(Vista theme), and the priority is not correct. It sorts things a bit poorly.

The mac version looks pretty good, but the Vista version feels wrong. It is a waste of space, with two lines of text, and whitespace surrounding the favicon and star.

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Post Posted March 21st, 2008, 6:13 pm

12bando12: Could you try this pre-beta5 version with some extra tweaks without using any extensions that try to revert the look/functionality?

https://build.mozilla.org/tryserver-bui ... Nfast.bar/

Fixed:
  1. <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=422491">Bug 422491</a> - Optimize AwesomeBar if it finished searching and found fewer than maxResults
  2. <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=422177">Bug 422177</a> - Awesome bar interrupts typing, so continue from where it left off
  3. <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=424454">Bug 424454</a> - Typed urls (like domain roots) need more frecency bonus
  4. <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=406257">Bug 406257</a> - reduce the number of rows in url bar autocomplete from 10 to 6
  5. <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=418257">Bug 418257</a> - Show what part of which tags match for urlbar autocomplete
  6. <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=392143">Bug 392143</a> - show keywords as url bar autocomplete choices
  7. <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=249468">Bug 249468</a> - Add all bookmark keywords to location bar autocomplete drop-down list
  8. <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395161">Bug 395161</a> - make it possible to restrict the url bar autocomplete results to bookmarks, tags, or history entries
  9. <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=420437">Bug 420437</a> - Search and emphasize quoted strings with spaces
  10. <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=422698">Bug 422698</a> - different levels of URL decoding for address bar and autocomplete suggestions
  11. <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=423942">Bug 423942</a> - "Clear List" in download manager should be "Clear Current List" during the search
  12. <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=423718">Bug 423718</a> - Use native platform colors for URLs in the location bar autocomplete, make the line between rows lighter
  13. <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=414326">Bug 414326</a> - Use DownloadUtils for software update downloads
  14. <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=424251">Bug 424251</a> - current page's favicon displayed when letting an address starting with a protocol auto-fill

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Post Posted March 21st, 2008, 6:29 pm

Are you using the latest nightly? Like I said, There were some check-ins relating to its appearance, so it looks a bit more compact.

Also, if you are using a nightly build, there are some new about:config settings that may be of interest. They are under "browser.urlbar"

You could also use chrome edits to mess around with the display. I don't know that the element tags are, but they're probably listed somewhere or someone around here knows them.
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Post Posted March 21st, 2008, 9:30 pm

I like it however pressing r to remember my password has not been working in nightly builds. So the page loads but I have to manually move my mouse every time to save a password. Hope this is fixed soon. ;-)

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Post Posted March 21st, 2008, 11:01 pm

JAB Creations wrote:I like it however pressing r to remember my password has not been working in nightly builds. So the page loads but I have to manually move my mouse every time to save a password. Hope this is fixed soon. ;-)

Have you filed a bug?

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Post Posted March 21st, 2008, 11:13 pm

The functionality is there and I like it - What is absolutely horrible is the looks: the size of the drop down, with those big fonts and the double line to show the name and the address of the url... ARRGH! The look is not awesome - it is awful, and will scare the hell out of the average user. In fact it is so ugly that any of the competitive browsers end up looking much better in this department.

Seriously. I can't believe they will ship Firefox 3.0 like this - with the present looks, it will spoil the functionality of the otherwise really awesome bar...

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