"AwesomeBar" is totally NOT awesome

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12bando12
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Mardak wrote:12bando12: Could you try this pre-beta5 version with some extra tweaks without using any extensions that try to revert the look/functionality?

https://build.mozilla.org/tryserver-bui ... Nfast.bar/



I'm sorry, I'd rather not...I just wanted to throw my opinion in here to get a discussions going...those bug fixes seem to be great ideas though and I'd love to hear from others who have tried that build. I have already fixed my maxRichResults and just started to get the hang of the new Bookmark Library. I'm just a casual user w/o a credible opinion, I think, so I'm going to stay out of the discussion for the most part. I usually avoid beta's except for this time I just got a new puter and couldn't resist jumping on the latest hot thing. You devs do an awesome job and I am truly and completely thankful for all the great work you guys put in. This discussion looks to be going well with some good ideas, and that list of bug fixes certainly seems to be heading in the right direction in my opinion. Good Luck.
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Post by supernova_00 »

^ Get the zip file and create a new profile. After testing just delete your profile and where you unzipped firefox to. Simple as that.
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Post by Mardak »

Fabfire wrote:EDIT: Oops! Adjustable TEXT SIZE? Geez, I really need more sleep! Wonderful!!! How do I reduce the text size? :D
Do you want to change the text size or just how much space it takes up? I suggested a few combinations of reducing text size and margins, and bug 407204 was fixed in the last couple days to make the font size a little smaller.

Below are 4 pictures: beta 4, smaller font size, smaller font with 1 smaller margin, smaller font with 2 smaller margin

<img src="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=310782">

If you want to make it more compact like the right-most, you can use this style:

.ac-normal-text {
margin-top: 0 !important;
}
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Post by Mardak »

Fedorov wrote:I found the best fix for the order of results was to clear my history so the awesome bar dropdown started fresh - it's been giving me pretty much what I expect when I type the first couple of characters quite nicely for some time now :)
So I'm assuming you aren't running into the issue that's shown in the screenshot you provided "gh" -> "ghacks" that Wired is using? ;)

<a href="http://blog.wired.com/monkeybites/2008/03/users-question.html">Users Question Awesomeness of "Awesomebar"</a> [wired.com]

<img src="http://blog.wired.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/03/20/awesomebar.png">
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Post by Mardak »

Oh, for those using builds like this:

https://build.mozilla.org/tryserver-bui ... Nfast.bar/

that have the fix for..

Bug 395161 - make it possible to restrict the url bar autocomplete results to bookmarks, tags, or history entries

There's some special characters you can type in:

pref("browser.urlbar.restrict.history", "^");
pref("browser.urlbar.restrict.bookmark", "*");
pref("browser.urlbar.match.title", "#");
pref("browser.urlbar.match.url", "@");
pref("browser.urlbar.match.tag", "+");

The first couple "restrict" make it so that it only searches through your history or only through your bookmarks.

E.g., "page ^ stuff" will find something with "page" and "stuff" that aren't bookmarked.

The last three "match" makes it so the terms you type in *have* to match in those locations. So you can do "title stuff #" to force "title" and "stuff" to be found in the title.

See this post for more information.. http://ed.agadak.net/2008/03/using-the-awesomebar
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Post by GSkRC33NJ9US »

@Mardak: The rightmost is the best! Brilliant! Why does that awesome bar look so much nicer than the Vista one? Are we being punished?!
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Post by Mardak »

Hrm? What /does/ it look like on vista?

We're going with 2nd from left for now as decided by beltzner because the other ones might feel too cramped to some users. But I suppose that might change if there's enough feedback after beta 5.
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Post by Fedorov »

Mardak wrote:
Fedorov wrote:I found the best fix for the order of results was to clear my history so the awesome bar dropdown started fresh - it's been giving me pretty much what I expect when I type the first couple of characters quite nicely for some time now :)
So I'm assuming you aren't running into the issue that's shown in the screenshot you provided "gh" -> "ghacks" that Wired is using? ;)

<a href="http://blog.wired.com/monkeybites/2008/03/users-question.html">Users Question Awesomeness of "Awesomebar"</a> [wired.com]

<img src="http://blog.wired.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/03/20/awesomebar.png">


Nope, if I type "gh" I get www.ghacks.net at the top now :)
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Mardak wrote:pref("browser.urlbar.match.title", "#");
pref("browser.urlbar.match.url", "@");
pref("browser.urlbar.match.tag", "+");


i wish they were booleans so that getting back to the old way can be as simple as:
pref("browser.urlbar.match.title", false);
pref("browser.urlbar.match.url", true);
pref("browser.urlbar.match.tag", false);

or something like browser.urlbar.match.mode:
1 url
2 title
4 tag

and 3=url+title & ... & 7=all
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Post by Omega X »

Mardak wrote:
<a href="http://blog.wired.com/monkeybites/2008/03/users-question.html">Users Question Awesomeness of "Awesomebar"</a> [wired.com]


Must be a slow day at Wired.
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Post by GSkRC33NJ9US »

Mardak wrote:Hrm? What /does/ it look like on vista?

We're going with 2nd from left for now as decided by beltzner because the other ones might feel too cramped to some users. But I suppose that might change if there's enough feedback after beta 5.


Well, it's hard to explain what's wrong. I can't find anything in Vista to compare with.
The nearest I can think is the Start Menu and folders set to "view as tiles".

They have a bold file name, and a normal description beneath.
Perhaps this is a good way to go.

Make titles of page bold, and urls normal. And the partial matches could just highlight the background and/or underline the characters.

FYI: The website url should be grey, not black or green. Here, let me make a mockup.
Give me 20 minutes and I'll edit this post..

Image Image
This is my interpretation of the awesome bar. What you think? Vista theme.
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Post by Mardak »

redhat71 wrote:
Mardak wrote:pref("browser.urlbar.match.title", "#");
pref("browser.urlbar.match.url", "@");
pref("browser.urlbar.match.tag", "+");

i wish they were booleans so that getting back to the old way can be as simple as..

Why booleans and lose out on the functionality of specifying when you want to switch from "search everything" to "search urls"? Maybe you're looking for bug 424557, which I just filed. ;)

Bug 424557 - Allow AwesomeBar to default search only urls (or history/titles/bookmarks/tags)

That makes it so if you set "browser.url.match.url" to "" instead of "@", it'll always search urls by default.
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Mardak wrote:Why booleans and lose out on the functionality of specifying when you want to switch from "search everything" to "search urls"? Maybe you're looking for bug 424557, which I just filed. ;)


cause i'm a simpleminded user, true/false is something i understand without even thinking

Mardak wrote:Bug 424557 - Allow AwesomeBar to default search only urls (or history/titles/bookmarks/tags)

That makes it so if you set "browser.url.match.url" to "" instead of "@", it'll always search urls by default.


as long as it gets the job done (autocomplete urls only), i'm more than happy to learn how to use these "@ # +"
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Post by Jeroen.83 »

Cyberkilla wrote:Make titles of page bold, and urls normal. And the partial matches could just highlight the background and/or underline the characters.

FYI: The website url should be grey, not black or green. Here, let me make a mockup.
Give me 20 minutes and I'll edit this post..

Image Image
This is my interpretation of the awesome bar. What you think? Vista theme.


I agree, the selected URL at Vista still uses the "XP selector style" (solid blue). As the devs try to get Fx as native as possible, that should be adjusted as well I think...

Just download your latest trybuild Mardrak, and what I also like to (or it just didn't work for me) is a combination of specific selectors (only history, tags, bookmarks etc) e.g.:

some text here + bugzilla

This should bring me only the results of bugzilla, since I tagged the bugs in bugzilla. But it gives me nothing... Am I doing something wrong?

Anyway, I would like to say I absolutely love the new locationbar and I can't go can to Fx2 without feeling outdated ;) Great job!
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Post by Omega X »

Cyberkilla wrote:Image Image
This is my interpretation of the awesome bar. What you think? Vista theme.


Wow, you hit the nail on the head. That is exactly how Vista looks natively.
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