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Checkins This Week

[Jun 24 06:59:31 2009 comm-central]# 495113 [Thunderbird] - Clicking clear now in activity manager hangs thunderbird [All]
[Jun 24 09:18:58 2009 comm-central]# 497895 [Thunderbird] - ugly iframe under feed messages viewed as "summary" (gnomestripe css change forgotten) [Lin]
[Jun 24 09:38:35 2009 comm-central]# 499992 [MailNews Core] - nsMsgTemplateReplyHelper signed integer used for array index [All]
[Jun 24 09:38:35 2009 comm-central]# 499998 [MailNews Core] - nsMsgSearchAdapter is missing braces around initializer [All]
[Jun 24 09:38:35 2009 comm-central]# 500000 [MailNews Core] - remove INTL_ConvertCharset because it is unused [All]
[Jun 24 15:37:51 2009 comm-central]# 500247 [MailNews Core] - Trunk builds busted due to Drag 'n' Drop API change on nsITreeView [All]
[Jun 25 01:19:35 2009 comm-central]# 498018 [Thunderbird] - Allow printing from content tabs (What's New, about:rights etc) [All]
[Jun 25 21:58:19 2009 comm-central]# 474701 [Thunderbird] - gloda global search on toolbar, folder display refactoring mega-bug [All]
[Jun 25 23:56:17 2009 comm-central]# 498106 [Thunderbird] - Collapsed message pane doesn't stay collapsed on tab switch but does suppress message display [All]
[Jun 26 01:05:27 2009 comm-central]# 500083 [Thunderbird] - delete from search results doesn't update view [Win]
[Jun 26 01:43:14 2009 comm-central]# 495185 [MailNews Core] - contentWhittle doesn't cope with messages that include unicode non-breaking spaces [All]
[Jun 26 04:07:37 2009 comm-central]# 499558 [MailNews Core] - New signature UI with inconsistent "deactive" state if box is checked without file specified [All]
[Jun 26 07:30:02 2009 comm-central]# 491303 [MailNews Core] - Empty inbox file created during virus scan and compact [Win]
[Jun 26 07:46:36 2009 comm-central]# 500416 [MailNews Core] - going offline can hang imap connections [Win]
[Jun 27 18:22:06 2009 comm-central]# 500844 [Thunderbird] - search tabs should use search icons [All]
[Jun 27 19:14:25 2009 comm-central]# 498889 [Thunderbird] - "Check for Updates" label and its variations need separate accesskeys [All]
[Jun 28 13:26:23 2009 comm-central]# 467768 [Thunderbird] - No way to make mail open in tabs by default [All]
[Jun 28 13:26:23 2009 comm-central]# 500284 [Thunderbird] - Middle-clicking roots of threads might cause the thread tree to jump a bit [All]
[Jun 28 14:55:10 2009 comm-central]# 500657 [MailNews Core] - open message from Search Messages results does not work well [All]
[Jun 29 02:54:15 2009 comm-central]# 495943 [Thunderbird] - Attachment reminder should not search quoted text in replies (plain-text case) [All]
[Jun 29 02:56:40 2009 comm-central]# 491709 [MailNews Core] - "because the server has disabled login" is horribly bad error message [All]
[Jun 29 03:00:16 2009 comm-central]# 497572 [Thunderbird] - Error pop up not appearing when email address is invalid [All]
[Jun 29 03:13:09 2009 comm-central]# 446291 [Thunderbird] - improved attachment preferences pane [All]
[Jun 29 09:55:50 2009 comm-central]# 500488 [Calendar] - Can't open Calendar and Tasks tabs; adopt Lightning to openTab API changes in Bug 467768 [All]
[Jun 29 11:19:54 2009 comm-central]# 501117 [MailNews Core] - Drop redundant IMAP strings from imapMsgs.properties [All]
[Jun 29 12:59:14 2009 comm-central]# 476695 [Thunderbird] - Activity Manager: Need theme work [All]
[Jun 29 21:36:38 2009 comm-central]# 496439 [Thunderbird] - in-message reply-menu should not include "reply list" when List-Post: value is NO [All]
[Jun 30 00:37:57 2009 comm-central]# 493186 [MailNews Core] - Crash when switching newsgroup [@nsMsgThreadedDBView::MoveThreadAt] [Lin]
[Jun 30 07:29:46 2009 comm-central]# 496273 [Thunderbird] - Cannot unsubscribe newsgroup (Error: server is undefined) [All]
[Jun 30 07:40:14 2009 comm-central]# 498819 [MailNews Core] - Exception in nsIMsgFolder.msgDatabase when "no msf" condition. After it, rebuild-Index is not invoked, Account Central is displayed for all mail folders ("0x80550006 [nsIMsgFolder.msgDatabase]" at dbViewWrapper.js :: DBViewWrapper_open :: line 762) [Win]
[Jun 30 07:50:02 2009 comm-central]# 501225 [Thunderbird] - What's New and about:rights pages broken post tab mail landing. [All]
[Jun 30 07:52:59 2009 comm-central]# 499278 [Thunderbird] - non-ascii IMAP-folder names appear wrong after rename [Lin]
[Jun 30 08:17:30 2009 comm-central]# 481866 [MailNews Core] - crash [@ nsMsgDatabase::GetUint32Property - nsMsgHdr::GetUint32Property] emptying trash [Win]

Recent Bugs of interest

# 353205 [Thunderbird] - request way to set default to no alternate text for inserting images [Win]
# 431819 [Thunderbird] - IMAP/POP/SMTP with SSL client auth, Thunderbird repeatedly prompts for client certificate [All]
# 456814 [Thunderbird] - Message reader enhancements (tracker) [All]
# 422814 [Thunderbird]- Make account configuration quick, easy, and more secure [All]
# 474701 [Thunderbird] - new search entry in default mail toolbar [All]

Latest Tested Builds

The current nightly build, unless otherwise noted

Current Trunk Status

Green

Current Thunderbird 3.next / Gecko 1.9.2 Status
Green

[tqft]

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1pre) Gecko/20090623 Shredder/3.0b3pre
What is maximum size of the inbox? I have 7,261 messages (6,082 unread)
-rw------- 1 ian ian 4302928284 2009-06-25 11:23 Inbox
Is 4Gb a hard coded limit (32 bit OS so may be)?

Added:
it is a pop mail account getting stuff from gmail
moved about half out of the inbox to some local folders and won't compact

[rsx11m]

Another Gloda/search-related patch (200kB this time) may land soon, see discussion in 474701 on what to expect.

P.S.: 4GB = 4,294,967,296 (thus, you may be above a 32-bit limit already)

[JoeS]

I've got 9.600 messages in my inbox that only amount to 156 MB
and a lot of them are newsletters (I purposely let the message count go for testing)
Even allowing for large attachments, it's hard to imagine an inbox where 7,200= 4 gb
I'd delete the inbox.msf and let it rebuild on startup.
(If you want to be extra safe, save a copy somewhere, if you can.

[rsx11m]

If each of tqft's mails averages 592,608 bytes in size, you get to this number. But yes, I would be concerned as well if the usage goes that high...

[tqft]

It has rebuilt the Inbox msf file and is still full. Still at >4Gb even after moving messages in bulk to local folders.

And yes easily average over 1/2 Mb per message

Taking a copy now but I suspect it is going to die an ugly death

[rsx11m]

Another Gloda/search-related patch (200kB this time) may land soon, see discussion in 474701 on what to expect.

This has landed last night and should be in today's nightly builds. The bug itself is resolved as fixed now.

[StoneCold]

Removing the compact message reader is a bad joke or?

Thunderbird 2:

http://stashbox.org/552546/tb2.png

Thunderbird 3:

http://stashbox.org/552544/tb3.png

The old reader in TB 2.0 was just fine, it just lacked a scrolling feature.

Even these new buttons used too many space, but now the message reader uses too much of the screen size.

I wonder with what nice "improvements" they surprise us in future.

[Scanorama]

Since 0612 nightly trunk build, the sender/to column has been disappeared. I have uninstalled all the extensions but it still doesn't work. However when started in safe mode, it works.

Anyone know why?

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1pre) Gecko/20090626 Shredder/3.0b3pre ID:20090626031556

[rsx11m]

This is one of the many regressions caused by the initial #474701 patch.

Removing the compact message reader is a bad joke or?
The old reader in TB 2.0 was just fine, it just lacked a scrolling feature.

I was expecting that the 2.0-like brief header view would be put back into place, but apparently this didn't happen (or I didn't find the option to switch into it). So, that's a bit strange but hopefully "something" will be come up with before the final release.

[StoneCold]

If the 2.0-like brief header view would come back, all is fine again. But i couldn't find any info about plans on that.

[zamula]

Yes, it almost seems as if the devs are making rash, illogical decisions that end up making the UI worse. Why would you take away a feature that many people like, especially when I don't recall anyone complaining before? I would imagine most users (especially new or novices), do not want to see a huger message header with all that extra "junk" in it.

And then there's the whole issue of the "improved" tango icon set for XP? Again, no one was complaining about the old icons, but now there ARE complaints about the new ones.

Sigh...I keep getting this bad feeling that TB3 is going to go over like a lead balloon and its days will be numbered. Hopefully I'll be proved wrong, because up until recently I LOVED TB and have been actively trying to convert friends to use it.

[JoeS]

Yes, it almost seems as if the devs are making rash, illogical decisions that end up making the UI worse. Why would you take away a feature that many people like, especially when I don't recall anyone complaining before? I would imagine most users (especially new or novices), do not want to see a huger message header with all that extra "junk" in it.

The assumption is that it will attract new users (maybe at the expense of the veterans)
The idea is to bring the UI closer to the message itself, eventually removing the toolbar by default.
That might be fine in theory, in practice..not so good.
I view my messages in a stand-alone window which shows the subject at the top,
so I just disabled the header altogether with userChrome
If I need header info view message source is enough for me.

Code: Select all

    /*Don't show the new header layout*/
    #msgHeaderViewDeck {
    display: none !important;
    }

And then there's the whole issue of the "improved" tango icon set for XP? Again, no one was complaining about the old icons, but now there ARE complaints about the new ones.

The first shock was bad, but that has settled in somewhat for me.

Sigh...I keep getting this bad feeling that TB3 is going to go over like a lead balloon and its days will be numbered. Hopefully I'll be proved wrong, because up until recently I LOVED TB and have been actively trying to convert friends to use it.

Well, if they are depending on multi-millions of new users with TB3 I don't think that's gonna
happen. Personally, I think you must lock in (keep happy) your existing base, and use that as
a bootstrap. Personal recommendations are always better than "a moving target" of potential
users. The spread firefox campaign is an example.

[rsx11m]

The idea is to bring the UI closer to the message itself, eventually removing the toolbar by default.

The one positive development of the compact-header removal is that #465138 New message-reader UI elements in header pane need to be customizable has been upgraded from "wanted-tb3+" to "blocking-tb3+" now, thus let's see where this is going and if the options offered there are sufficient.

[rsx11m]

Thunderbird 2: http://stashbox.org/552546/tb2.png
Thunderbird 3: http://stashbox.org/552544/tb3.png

That's a bit unfair though as you show the 3.0 version with View > Headers > All (in > Normal, it should stop after the "date" heading). Make sure not to use such perceived tricks when arguing in bugs, though I certainly agree that reintroducing the brief header version would help the issue.

Coincidentally, your screenshot shows the "You" bug, which was accidentally (or by Freudian slip?) closed briefly yesterday as it was assumed to have disappeared with the compact headers (unfortunately, it didn't). That's still something which needs to be sorted out in time for beta 4...