Daily build thread: April 2-8, 2006

supernova_00 · Post by **supernova_00** » April 5th, 2006, 11:05 am

Windows 98 support was dropped as of today's trunk builds.

ColdFusion650 · Post by **ColdFusion650** » April 5th, 2006, 2:37 pm

jant, any translation on that obviously not english error message? does it still work on 98?

if i was mozilla, i would popup a message like "this aint supported. use at ur own risk." but if the user wants to use it on an unsupported os, they should be allowed to. no?

JanT · Post by **JanT** » April 6th, 2006, 1:29 am

@ColdFusion650
This errormessage is in the Dutch (nl) language.
It is generated by the OS, in this case Win98SE Dutch.
Translation:
. Error Starting Program
. The THUNDERBIRD.EXE file is linked to missing export USER32.DLL:UpdateLayeredWindow

TB is looking for the function UpdateLayeredWindow in the file User32.dll witch is a provided by the OS.
In Bug 330276 is some explanation.

flaxthejute · Post by **flaxthejute** » April 6th, 2006, 4:03 am

How can they possibly drop win98 builds, especially when the main aim seems to be to add cosmetic features! - tranparency etc!!

Some of us are locked into win98se

Flax

ColdFusion650 · Post by **ColdFusion650** » April 6th, 2006, 4:23 am

if ur willing to fork out big bucks, u can upgrade windows. or u could switch to linux for free. there are some things that win98 doesnt support and dropping it is necessary to allow development to progress.

supernova_00 · Post by **supernova_00** » April 6th, 2006, 4:36 am

flaxthejute: The trunk builds are for 3.0 which will be release over a year from now. By that time Win 98 will be close to 10 years old. If you haven't upgrade in that time then something is wrong, your using an microsoft non-supported os which is obsolete and legacy software which hasn't and wont get any security updates so in theroy your computer is a threat to your system and the internet.

flaxthejute · Post by **flaxthejute** » April 6th, 2006, 8:13 am

ColdFusion650 & supernova_00

I see your point, I really do. But I've a work PC supplied by the National Health Service, and while mine is running (which it is, beautifully), the priority in my lab is to ditch the remaining Pentium 300 PCs that we have and replace them with something that actually runs.

My situation is not unique. Over in bug 330276, a poster talks about the number of his customers that will/cannot upgrade past win98se. Anyway, nothing I say is going to affect developer decisions.

And maybe by the time it becomes critical, some rich benefactor may have donated enough to give me the luxury to replace my PCs because I want to, not because they're broke. I'll stop worrying for now...

Flax

Canyonero · Post by **Canyonero** » April 6th, 2006, 9:35 am

You're using a 10 year old OS. What's so bad about using a 1 year old mail client?

flaxthejute · Post by **flaxthejute** » April 7th, 2006, 1:44 am

Canyonero wrote:You're using a 10 year old OS. What's so bad about using a 1 year old mail client?

Ooooo...
I'm using a 10 year old OS because I have to. :cry:

I'd like to be cutting edge, honest. :-({|=

I think I've taken up enough of this thread, but just to re-iterate. I'm not alone. Not everyone has the choice to change OS. If they have the option to choose mail client, why should they have to settle for last year's reject :twisted:

Flax

TigerX · Post by **TigerX** » April 7th, 2006, 9:41 am

Menus are no longer operational... :-(

Thunderbird 3.0a (Build ID: 2006040705)

supernova_00 · Post by **supernova_00** » April 7th, 2006, 10:02 am

^ Bug number in the red list. I would suggest not updating because you won't be able to update to feature builds because you won't be able to see or click on the menu to update or to restart or anything.

JanT · Post by **JanT** » April 7th, 2006, 10:09 am

TigerX wrote:Menus are no longer operational...
Thunderbird 3.0a (Build ID: 2006040705)

It should be bug #333051[Core:Layout]-Menus (top-level and context) no longer work [Win]
Also in TB branch 2006040708 and other Mozilla products: (Firefox, Seamonkey, Sunbird, ...)

gerbig · Post by **gerbig** » April 7th, 2006, 10:17 am

Anyone seeing behavior like bug 220173 in recent branch builds? The description of the bug is "If new email comes in while reading a message in the preview pane, the message scrolls back to the start".

I just noticed it running
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8) Gecko/20060406 Thunderbird/2.0a1 ID:2006040609

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=220173

TigerX · Post by **TigerX** » April 7th, 2006, 10:34 am

JanT wrote:[...] Also in other Mozilla products: (Firefox, Seamonkey, Sunbird, ...)

Aye, any non-Cairo enabled Mozilla product should be suffering the same bug if I'm reading the bugmail right.

urichter · Post by **urichter** » April 7th, 2006, 5:41 pm

For people that are stuck on 0407 builds: Alt+H, O checks for available updates.