Noobie questions

Digiti · Post by **Digiti** » November 27th, 2002, 10:49 am

Hello,
I am considering using build Mozilla 1.2. on my Win95b computer. I have several questions:
1. Will the installation of the Java 1.4x Runtime plug-in overwrite my 1.3.1 Java plug-in I am using with Opera 6?
2. How stable is Mozilla? What I mean is it prone to BSOD, Fatal Exception Errors in Windows? Will an error in the Mozilla program bring down the entire operating system?
Thanks for any information you provide.

michel v · Post by **michel v** » November 27th, 2002, 10:56 am

1) No. And related to Mozilla itself.
2) No.

Dan Kies · Post by **Dan Kies** » November 27th, 2002, 11:05 am

Digiti,

I can't answer your first question, but I am sure that someone with more experience in that matter will offer good advice.

However, I can report on the stability of Mozilla on Win95b, since I have used Mozilla for more than a year on a Win95b machine (133 mHz 586 chip with only 64mb of RAM): Mozilla is rock solid. It has never given me a GP fault or BSOD. It has never brought down the whole system, despite the fact that my Win95b system does not meet the minimum system requirements recommended for the program. Rarely, I will experience the "This program has performed an illegal operation" error. Rarely. Less that other application written for Win95, in fact. Mozilla is that good.

The only thing different I did for the Win95 system was to install with the Quick Launch feature enabled. (You will see that option during install procedure.)

Digiti · Post by **Digiti** » November 27th, 2002, 2:31 pm

Thanks to everyone who replied. I installed Mozilla 1.2 today. As a long time Netscape and I.E. user, I have to say this package really ROCKS!!! This is everything Netscape should have been.The fact that it works on so many platforms just adds to its worthiness. Keep up the good work everyone!. I will put it through its paces.

herman · Post by **herman** » November 27th, 2002, 5:24 pm

Digiti wrote:Hello,
I am considering using build Mozilla 1.2. on my Win95b computer. I have several questions:
1. Will the installation of the Java 1.4x Runtime plug-in overwrite my 1.3.1 Java plug-in I am using with Opera 6?
2. How stable is Mozilla? What I mean is it prone to BSOD, Fatal Exception Errors in Windows? Will an error in the Mozilla program bring down the entire operating system?
Thanks for any information you provide.

After installing java 1.4x I´ve read on the sun-site that I should have deinstalled java 1.3x before. I didn´t matter, I´ve got no problems having both ( or three?) of these plugins on Win98 and Win98SE.
But look at that link:

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/jre/install-windows.html

... is supported on Microsoft Windows 98 (1st or 2nd edition), Windows NT 4.0 with with Service Pack 5 or later, Windows ME, Windows XP, Windows 2000 with Service Pack 2 or later, running on Intel hardware.
...
Trying to install the Java 2 Runtime Environment on a non-supported version of Microsoft Windows or on a machine that doesn't have a sufficiently up-to-date Service Pack will cause the installer to generate this warning: "We recommend that you do not install ...
...

Thats only a recommendation, like Pentium 166 and 48 MB of RAM.
You should have 40 megabytes of free disk space before attempting to install the Java 2 Runtime Environment.

So with win95 you are on your own, but I don´t think java1.3x will be destroyed.
Even if that should happen, you can download it from sun.

herman

A lot of info, not very useful for non-java-programmers.
Have a look, maybe it´s telling you why 1.4.1 is better.

http://java.sun.com/
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/changes.html
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/relnotes.html
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/compatibility.html

http://java.sun.com/j2se/downloads.html
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/download.html

have a look at the license and install-info:

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/j2re-1_4 ... cense.html

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/jre/install.html
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/jre/install-windows.html

Digiti · Post by **Digiti** » November 27th, 2002, 5:30 pm

I have not installed Java 1.4 yet, but Mozilla 1.2 works well with Java 1.3.1 anyway.

herman · Post by **herman** » November 27th, 2002, 5:51 pm

Digiti wrote:I have not installed Java 1.4 yet, but Mozilla 1.2 works well with Java 1.3.1 anyway.

Have a look at the 1.4 licence:

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/j2re-1_4 ... cense.html
...
5. Notice of Automatic Software Updates from Sun.
You acknowledge that the Software may automatically download, install, and execute applets, applications, software extensions, and updated versions of the Software from Sun ("Software Updates"), which may require you to accept updated terms and conditions for installation. If additional terms and conditions are not presented on installation, the Software Updates will be considered part of the Software and subject to the terms and conditions of the Agreement.
...
6. Notice of Automatic Downloads.
You acknowledge that, by your use of the Software and/or by requesting services that require use of the Software, the Software may automatically download, install, and execute software applications from sources other than Sun ("Other Software").
...

herman

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