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Post Posted August 19th, 2018, 12:54 pm

Apparently Adobe is insisting that only Firefox should be allowed to download the installer for a Flash plugin. I had to fake a Firefox user-agent in SeaMonkey before I was able to download the latest one. Why do that? It makes no sense to me.

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Post Posted August 19th, 2018, 2:01 pm


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Post Posted August 19th, 2018, 5:05 pm

It works.
I just downloaded flashplayer and installed 30_0_0_154 from https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
I'm on windows 7

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Post Posted August 20th, 2018, 3:44 am

James wrote:So this page does not work? https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/


Doesn't work for long time - there is available Adobe Download Manager only.

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To download full offline installer fellow must use direct URL:
Mozilla (NPAPI)
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http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/30.0.0.154/install_flash_player.exe


IE (ActiveX)
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http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/30.0.0.154/install_flash_player_ax.exe


URLs must be changed for newer versions.

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Post Posted August 20th, 2018, 4:48 am

Doesn't work for long time - there is available Adobe Download Manager only.

Actually, that link does still work.

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Post Posted August 20th, 2018, 7:38 am

This always provides the latest version of Flash for me:

https fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/latest/help/install_flash_player.exe
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Post Posted August 20th, 2018, 9:27 am

(A user on Pale Moon forums ran into issue downloading.
I would expect https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ to simply work, but haven't used that in ages.
[That link actually downloads a "stub"-installer, & other crap, if you let it, that then downloads what you actually want.]

What @Pav78 wrote it the correct answer, IMO.)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 Pinball CopyURL+ FetchTextURL FlashGot NoScript

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Post Posted August 20th, 2018, 11:30 am

Not quite the right answer for MacOS, though.

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Post Posted August 20th, 2018, 11:51 am

Oh, that's right, you need a dmg.


Very bottom of these pages, will point to the (same direct for) Windows & (similar for) Mac links:
https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/installation-problems-flash-player-windows.html
https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/installation-problems-flash-player-mac.html
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 Pinball CopyURL+ FetchTextURL FlashGot NoScript

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Post Posted August 20th, 2018, 12:21 pm

Pav78 wrote:This always provides the latest version of Flash for me:

https://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/f ... player.exe


Funny thing! Your URL and my URL should gave the same files... but they are not the same!

EXE file from "latest" folder has older digital signature then "30.0.0.154" folder.

SHA256 check sums:
"Latest"
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d4a083f7d1b191af30a64c67be3c4ffadf0b491c841acff7fbe560ae03ce5467

"30.0.0.154"
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6e16f016cc05fb79aacaa626cb48d5b28ff1d59958aeb63a60620b94d831af5f


I didn't checked DDLs so I don't know more details.

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Post Posted August 20th, 2018, 7:14 pm

DanRaisch wrote:
Doesn't work for long time - there is available Adobe Download Manager only.

Actually, that link does still work.

Yep as you can download the latest version for Windows, Mac or Linux regardless of what OS you are using as it is the "Need Flash Player for a different computer?" link on https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

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Post Posted August 21st, 2018, 6:52 am

therube wrote:A user on Pale Moon forums ran into issue downloading.
...

How to Ask Questions The Smart Way - How to Report Bugs Effectively ;)
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20180711 SeaMonkey/2.49.4
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:54.0) Gecko/20170619 SeaMonkey/2.51

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Post Posted August 21st, 2018, 9:02 am

Both hashes are correct.

Not quite sure what the /pdc/ means, though there is at least one "pdc" URL (if that means anything?):
> https:// www .adobe.com/lib/mobile/pdc/apple.html

Appears that other then a couple bytes at the beginning of the file, the only other difference may have something to do with the certificate? (Both are signed by symantec :evilgrin:.)

So I'll take it that both are equally valid, though slightly different in packaging leading to different hashes.

The one, in order to use, you must know the current version number - in order to get the current version.
The other, theoretically, should always return the most current version.
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 Pinball CopyURL+ FetchTextURL FlashGot NoScript

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Post Posted August 21st, 2018, 10:46 am

James wrote:Yep as you can download the latest version for Windows, Mac or Linux regardless of what OS you are using as it is the "Need Flash Player for a different computer?" link on https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

That did not work. I tried that. It sort of worked if I gave SeaMonkey a fake Firefox user-agent, but did not work with any other browser. Therube's second link works, so thanks for that.

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