Fewer and Fewer Sites working in SM

[LinuxUserSince1991]

Another site that's basically useless with SM: https://www.nostalgicwarehouse.com/

As always, everything on it works perfectly with other browsers. With SM, links aren't clickable (such as "Products" in the navigation bar at the top of each page), I couldn't attach pictures to their contact form, the design-your-own tool doesn't work, etc. NOTHING happens. That's it. I have nothing else to report, just that clicking/pressing/selecting any of these options results in nothing happening.

[Rob_S]

"Products" appears to not contain a link for seamonkey to follow. In edge a cursor hover drops down a panel of options, probably some script involved.

For me it seems most Seamonkey failures these days appear to be script-related. What I don't know is what is preventing this (scripting engine) from being updated. Seems like every other detail is being attended to as best they can, but this must be more difficult.

[LinuxUserSince1991]

"Products" appears to not contain a link for seamonkey to follow. In edge a cursor hover drops down a panel of options, probably some script involved.

For me it seems most Seamonkey failures these days appear to be script-related. What I don't know is what is preventing this (scripting engine) from being updated. Seems like every other detail is being attended to as best they can, but this must be more difficult.

I'm so grateful to have had SM in my life all these years, and I don't want to come across as bitching or unhappy. I *appreciate* SM and the people who've worked on it--and I show that financially by making donations. I understand that they're busy and they can't do everything RIGHT NOW, but with more and more sites not functioning--or not functioning completely--with SM, this is getting tough!

American Express is basically useless to me now, unless I want to do the most basic things, like view my accounts' balances and a limited number of other simple things. But to get anything done, I have to switch to FF or another browser. Since Amex is the site I use most often of those that don't work correctly, it's the one that bugs me the most and I bitch about the most! And it's weird, because it's not just like clicking a link does nothing, but clicking a link will spawn something completely different from what was expected!

[Zeiss Ikon]

I haven't read the whole two-year thread, but only the past few weeks I've been having major problems like this. Reddit pages will display, but functions of the site don't work. Cults3D hasn't allowed downloads in SeaMonkey in a good while, but recently Thingiverse is like Reddit -- pretty much nothing works except basic page display. It seems to be mainly pages that depend on a lot of server-end processing.

I run Kubuntu 20.04, and SeaMonkey self-updates through my package manager; currently at 2.53.11.1, which has UA Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.11.1 (packaged by seamonkey-mozilla-build). I notice that the Firefox claimed in the UA is close to *thirty* releases out of date (Firefox 68 came out in July of 2019!).

Would I get better results (newer version, closer to mainstream Firefox) by installing from a PPA or a different repository? Or will changing the UA (how?) to claim a newer Firefox version make things work (or just tell the sites they work and make things worse at my end)?

I know it does no good to ask why the browser with an interface I like (vs. the Chrome-alike Firefox, Edge, and almost everything else these days) isn't kept closer -- lack of brains and eyes in the development process, and I can't help with that (my C is ANSI only and extremely rusty, from pre-99, any other language I used to know is worse, not to mention I almost completely lack free time). Probably doesn't help to ask why Firefox decided to copy Chrome's interface, either -- but I'll just say I really deeply dislike that interface (perhaps because I'm forced into it at work, running Chrome on Windows 10 as better than Edge, those are the only two browsers IT will put on our locked-down systems).

How can I get Reddit and Cults3D and Thingiverse (and probably other sites I'm not recalling at the moment) to work correctly without having to put up with the Firefox UI?

[therube]

I notice that the Firefox claimed in the UA is close to *thirty* releases out of date

You can't state it like that, relatively.

SeaMonkey is what SeaMonkey is.
SeaMonkey works where it works.
SeaMonkey works well, where it works well.
SeaMonkey may not work well everywhere, or perhaps, not at all on some sites.

That's all there is to it.

How can I get ... (and probably other sites I'm not recalling at the moment) to work correctly

You may not be able to, pure & simple.

https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/home/bu ... ersingreen
Click, download
I log in
I'm sent to, https://cults3d.com/en/orders/32084201
Click, Download your files
& I'm prompted to download "bubbler-layersingreen20220325-61-terecw.zip"
(which does download)

[4td8s]

https://www.msi.com/news/

this page from the MSI web site no longer displays the MSI news articles on Seamonkey - just keep seeing the animated circle & nothing else
but does work fine with Firefox, Chrome and Palemoon

[therube]

but does work fine with ... Palemoon

I don't see it working there either - in PM25 or 30.

Probably: go-mpulse.net ?

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php
https://account.msi.com/login

[NWKnight77]

Whenever I'm forced to use Firefox, I thank goodness I have SeaMonkey. Every browser nowadays seems to jump on the Chromium bandwagon. Very user unfriendly. I had to open SeaMonkey just to look up the View Page Info hotkey, since I couldn't find it anywhere else on Firefox. I got a lot of computer viruses in the early days of the internet, but at least I was free.

[Frank Lion]

https://www.msi.com/news/

this page from the MSI web site no longer displays the MSI news articles on Seamonkey - just keep seeing the animated circle & nothing else
but does work fine with Firefox, Chrome and Palemoon

No, it doesn't. It doesn't work with M$ Edge Beta either.

Mind you, even in your 'Zero effort by user looking for stick to beat SM with' mindset mode, it would actually help if you posted the right link that does work with SeaMonkey and Edge Beta - https://www.msi.com/news (note : no /suffix)

[LinuxUserSince1991]

I haven't read the whole two-year thread, but only the past few weeks I've been having major problems like this. Reddit pages will display, but functions of the site don't work. Cults3D hasn't allowed downloads in SeaMonkey in a good while, but recently Thingiverse is like Reddit -- pretty much nothing works except basic page display. It seems to be mainly pages that depend on a lot of server-end processing.

I'm on Kubuntu 21.10 and have the same problem with Reddit. Threads will display--to a point--but, among other things, when the large blue button appears to continue reading, clicking it does nothing. It's annoying enough to constantly be prompted by Reddit that "it's better in the app!" and "get the app!" (I already tried the damn app--I didn't like it), but factor in SM not working properly and it's not fun.

How can I get Reddit and Cults3D and Thingiverse (and probably other sites I'm not recalling at the moment) to work correctly without having to put up with the Firefox UI?

+1

[Snake4]

https://www.msi.com/news/

this page from the MSI web site no longer displays the MSI news articles on Seamonkey - just keep seeing the animated circle & nothing else
but does work fine with Firefox, Chrome and Palemoon

No, it doesn't. It doesn't work with M$ Edge Beta either.

Mind you, even in your 'Zero effort by user looking for stick to beat SM with' mindset mode, it would actually help if you posted the right link that does work with SeaMonkey and Edge Beta - https://www.msi.com/news (note : no /suffix)

i get the same issue in Goggle Chrom 102

EDIT : the link you posted though Frank, it does work

[iFix]

Interesting that ABC News no longer has embedded images?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/rural ... /100966340

[therube]

Probably some google code. Got me?

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<img alt="A man and a woman outside holding green shovels." src="https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/5e2243512832c658a3f75caa9fe14619?impolicy=wcms_crop_resize&cropH=2813&cropW=5000&xPos=0&yPos=260&width=862&height=485" class="_1sqAO WIJbJ" sizes="100vw" data-component="Image">

And all kinds of math errors. (Times past, computer were pretty adept at math.)

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Warning: Error in parsing value for ‘width’ after substituting variables. Generated value was ‘calc( auto*1.5)’.  Falling back to ‘initial’.
Source File: https://www.abc.net.au/news-web/client/vendors.abc.5d33e8e3.css
Line: 3, Column: 9096
Source Code:
calc( auto*1.5)

[LinuxUserSince1991]

Just my periodic drop-in to say THIS REALLY SUCKS!! Sites that historically worked fine with SM are now in the 'do not work' category, and it pisses me off. I'm sick and tired of having to switch browsers just to do something normal, like right now trying to place an order at Home Depot. Four days ago it worked fine; today it doesn't. Hitting the button to complete the order, the button just flashes, then I'm right back at my cart. Switch to FF and it goes through right away.

Ditto for IMDb, American Express, [some features] Bank of America, Lowes, Bed Bath & Beyond, and many, many others...so many, I've lost track of them all.

[Frank Lion]

Just my periodic drop-in to say THIS REALLY SUCKS!!

Different people have different experiences with SeaMonkey, I reckon. For example, I browse a wide variety of websites on the Net all the time and yet only have to bring up Edge Beta around twice a week for websites that don't show right in SM.

As for the websites that don't work ok in SM? - you're pretty much going to have to fix those for yourself. That especially applies on sites where you have to have an account or where obscure bits of a site don't work, i.e. for the parts of the IMDB site that I use then it works fine, as does Lowes, Bed, Bath Beyond when I look at them.

For the rest, changing the user agent string, clearing cookies, disable uBlock adblocker, turning off JavaScript or even enabling media.autoplay to get Vimeo vids to work...are all things that can get results. Or even -

Interesting that ABC News no longer has embedded images?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/rural ... /100966340

Sure, Menu>View>Use Style>None ...finished.

Is that a fix? Who knows, you can certainly see the images there now. That might be OK for this guy.

SeaMonkey is based off Firefox 56 that came out way back in 2017. Although SM has had more recent features added to it and also up to date security fixes applied, it is, at the end of the day, a browser that is a bit out of date and not all websites will work 100% with it.

Due to the huge number of really good features on SeaMonkey, it really suits me and the vast array of websites I use. If it doesn't suit someone else, then maybe use M$ Edge Beta or something, because SM is what it is.