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Frank Lion wrote:
Peter Creasey wrote:A smart phone is the only way I know of to make a digital deposit. Any other option(s)?
A PC with a scanner.

I read a few US Bank links to make sure we're talking about the same thing and we are. https://www.dcu.org/access/money-moveme ... posit.html

However, I confess that all I do, once a month, is to write my account number of the back of each cheque, put them in an envelope with a little note and post it into their night safe in the evening. Seems to work OK.
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Only one non-profit still pays me by check. As I have a branch close by, or any other branch for that matter, I can just deposit that check in the slot they provide. I always scan everything financial in advance to keep an alternate record. Won't use the suggested bank app on my Amazon Fire tablet or my smartphone. Using my Windows computer is enough technology for me.

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We are getting rather far off the tracks in regard to SeaMonkey here, folks.
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SeaMonkey always pays me by check.
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Frank, the one at your link...

https://www.dcu.org/access/money-moveme ... posit.html
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Just for reference: images load on this site stopped working in SeaMonkey
https://makefitness.pro/upragnenia-s-ga ... a-mugshin/
In error console there is
SyntaxError: import declarations may only appear at top level of a module
error, and 3 CSP messages
Content Security Policy: Ignoring “'unsafe-inline'” within script-src: ‘strict-dynamic’ specified (unknown)
Content Security Policy: Ignoring “https:” within script-src: ‘strict-dynamic’ specified (unknown)
Content Security Policy: Ignoring “http:” within script-src: ‘strict-dynamic’ specified (unknown)
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Yeah well. I'm on SeaMonkey 2.53.3 (64-bit) here. I'm noticing more and more sites beginning to lose functionality. Whenever this happens, it usually doesn't get rectified until there's another "tenths place" update of SeaMonkey (i.e. from 2.49 to 2.53 etc.). My bank doesn't have a user agent error message. It just doesn't load. Ebay has a few elements broken. Peacock (NBC streaming service) doesn't work. I keep having to use a Chromium-based browser or God forbid actual Firefox. Now what's keeping me from upgrading to 2.53.7? Well like I said, those little incremental upgrades usually do nothing to help this kind of thing. And secondly, I saw that Flash support is being pulled. I guess I'll be dragged kicking and screaming eventually. I just fear what an internet without Flash would look like.
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NWKnight77 wrote:And secondly, I saw that Flash support is being pulled. I guess I'll be dragged kicking and screaming eventually. I just fear what an internet without Flash would look like.
Adobe no longer supports their Flash Player after December 31, 2020 and blocked Flash content from running in Flash Player beginning January 12, 2021
https://www.adobe.com/ca/products/flash ... -life.html So chances are you were using HTML5 and not Flash in the past few years for videos and such.

The Flash being made EOL at end of December 2020 was known since July 25 2017. https://blog.adobe.com/en/publish/2017/ ... #gs.xg61a3 https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases ... -end-life/

Websites since before the Adobe announcement have been using say HTML5 for video, audio and even games as it is more cross platform compared to the more limited Flash Player support as there was no Flash for iOS and Flash for Android was EOL back in oh 2012. Mozilla even had a nice BrowserQuest game demo back in 2012 to prove that you did not need Flash for browser games.
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> Now what's keeping me from upgrading to 2.53.7? Well like I said, those little incremental upgrades usually do nothing to help this kind of thing.

To each his own. There may not be tons of visible fixes in every release but enough. webp support for example made a bunch of websites work. resizeObserver also. And modules support even while still disabled should now work too for most sites if you need and enable it now. That web designers are now just using the latest half baked draft features and frameworks which basically support only the latest and greatest Chrome or if you are lucky Firefox is what really causes the problem.

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NWKnight77 wrote:Yeah well. I'm on SeaMonkey 2.53.3 (64-bit) here. I'm noticing more and more sites beginning to lose functionality. ...
Yeah well, I told you guys over 2 years ago now that this would happen.

A browser based on Firefox 56, which was released in September 2017, doesn't work on some sites, however many fixes are done to it - well, there's a surprise, I'd never have thought that if it wasn't for your insightful posts here that echo what was already written in 2018, er, in these forums.

Use it or use a modern browser as well as/instead. With SeaMonkey - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8Z4xFA_DV8
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Frank etal, what are the prospects that SeaMonkey will be made to be functional with the modern sites dynamics?
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Peter Creasey wrote:... functional with the modern sites dynamics?
What modern websites did you have in mind?
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Peter Creasey wrote:Frank etal, what are the prospects that SeaMonkey will be made to be functional with the modern sites dynamics?
I think the crux of the problem is web developers that don't design their sites for all audiences/users. They could take the time to do things in a more inclusive way, but they just code for Chrome and leave the rest of us to either convert or go away. IMHO, is the fault of the lazy web developer, not the SeaMonkey dev team.
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Frank, I was referring to modern website _dynamics_, not specific websites.

David, definitely no fault lies with our great SeaMonkey developers.
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Frank Lion wrote:
NWKnight77 wrote:Yeah well. I'm on SeaMonkey 2.53.3 (64-bit) here. I'm noticing more and more sites beginning to lose functionality. ...
Yeah well, I told you guys over 2 years ago now that this would happen.

A browser based on Firefox 56, which was released in September 2017, doesn't work on some sites, however many fixes are done to it - well, there's a surprise, I'd never have thought that if it wasn't for your insightful posts here that echo what was already written in 2018, er, in these forums.

Use it or use a modern browser as well as/instead. With SeaMonkey - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8Z4xFA_DV8
Firefox 60, actually.
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NWKnight77 wrote:Firefox 60, actually.
Firefox 56, actually. The SM user agent string Firefox suffix is a spoof.

Firefox 57+ is very different to 56 - http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic ... #p14789746

Peter Creasey wrote:Frank, I was referring to modern website _dynamics_, not specific websites.

Repeated or not, I still have no idea what the term 'modern sites dynamics' means, nor, it seems, does the Google search engine.
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