I am a big fan of mozilla. Them made very good apps. Best apps are firefox and thunderbird. Firefox is the best browser, it`s fast, stable, secure (compared to ie with active x default enabled) and there are a lot of addons. Any functions missing? Get an addon, there are addons for almost everything. Opera is also not bad, it`s a bit faster but overall features and Open Source are more important for me.
Thunderbird is best mail- and newsclient. It`s rare, but with thunderbird I don`t miss a single feature. There is really nothing I could wish about it and I often have ideas to improve software, but not for thunderbird. Thunderbird is THE pattern of Open Source and professional software.
There are a lot of messengers already on the market. Most and most used ones are proprietary and them lack features compared to each other. However, there are multi messengers, but none of them can really compete with quality of mozilla products. Most of this mulit messengers just support basic functions (chat) from those proprietary messengers and things like filetransfer/audio/video/games are broken and unlikely to be added.
Them also don`t listen on what costumers want. From my point of view mozilla really try to make a good product which shall fit everyones needs (very good design with addons and about:config).
Most easy to use and best connectivity has skype, it`s using peer to peer (kinda serverless) and technologies to overcome firewalls. It has great voice quality, no other pc to pc voice/audio chat program can really compete with it right now. The bad thing is, skype is proprietary, therefore the encryption depends on what a central authority wants - it`s not secure and there are no alternative frotends and good addons possible because of closed source. I would love to see a clone of this concept (serverless, good voice quality, no problems with nat`s).
Now I found a very impressive project, based on mozilla technologies with addons (soon). http://www.instantbird.com/ ! This has the potential to become the best messenger.
It`s not a officiall product from mozilla right now. But I vote therefore, I would love to see them cooperating with mozilla, that`s my suggestion.
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wish: mozilla should join the messenger market! instantbird?
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wish: mozilla should join the messenger market! instantbird?
I finally managed it to create my own acc and not using bugmenot anymore. =)
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MyOwnAcc wrote:It`s not a officiall product from mozilla right now. But I vote therefore, I would love to see them cooperating with mozilla, that`s my suggestion.
What would "cooperating" mean here?
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Nice to see you here.
Mozilla...
- asks the developers if them want to
- merges this project into their own websites such as forums.mozillazine.org and mozilla.com and wiki and so on
- accepts donations for this project
- collects feature requests
- thinks again over a solid software design
- maybe puts some money into the project founders / asks the developers if them want to take a well paid (full) time job
- integrating something useful to get money out if it (like firefox has google as search plugin and start page)
- makes some news on mainpage, blog or wherever about this new project so other websites will post news about it. and even more users and free developers get involved.
- lot of other things, but i stop now this where just examples. It`s not up to me and I just hope that someone from Mozilla will think about it and maybe write their opinion on this in some lines.
I think the messenger market is lucrative and even would accept an advertise supported messenger.
There are a lot of competitors to beat like the old and much used proprietary messengers and those multi messengers. Imho most or all of those multi messengers does not have to potential to become unarguable the best messenger (getting all features under one hood), Mozilla would have. like firefox is unarguable the best browser (ok, the only valid point is that opera is a bit faster and uses less resources).
Mozilla...
- asks the developers if them want to
- merges this project into their own websites such as forums.mozillazine.org and mozilla.com and wiki and so on
- accepts donations for this project
- collects feature requests
- thinks again over a solid software design
- maybe puts some money into the project founders / asks the developers if them want to take a well paid (full) time job
- integrating something useful to get money out if it (like firefox has google as search plugin and start page)
- makes some news on mainpage, blog or wherever about this new project so other websites will post news about it. and even more users and free developers get involved.
- lot of other things, but i stop now this where just examples. It`s not up to me and I just hope that someone from Mozilla will think about it and maybe write their opinion on this in some lines.
I think the messenger market is lucrative and even would accept an advertise supported messenger.
There are a lot of competitors to beat like the old and much used proprietary messengers and those multi messengers. Imho most or all of those multi messengers does not have to potential to become unarguable the best messenger (getting all features under one hood), Mozilla would have. like firefox is unarguable the best browser (ok, the only valid point is that opera is a bit faster and uses less resources).
I finally managed it to create my own acc and not using bugmenot anymore. =)
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MyOwnAcc wrote:- collects feature requests
http://bugzilla.instantbird.org/
- integrating something useful to get money out if it (like firefox has google as search plugin and start page)
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I think the messenger market is lucrative and even would accept an advertise supported messenger.
I would definitely not accept to see ads while using Instantbird.
But if you have an idea of something useful that would allow us to get money out of it, we are of course very interested
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fqueze wrote:I would definitely not accept to see ads while using Instantbird.
And many other users maybe as well. But look at original Icq, most used messenger and people accept ads.
To find together I suggest a small Wizard when starting instantbird first time where you can turn off/on the ads would make all people happy?
fqueze wrote:But if you have an idea of something useful that would allow us to get money out of it, we are of course very interested
Ask and accept donations in a decent way.
Maybe some decent ads on your website.
Other then that I would say same problem like mozilla has with thunderbird. There is not something like "search google box" which is useful for firefox and makes money from google for using it.
Another idea is to include irc search. There are not that much big websites where you can search for irc channels, but integrating it on the right place could be useful and get some money thought an agreement. But implementing irc is hard because there are very mature irc clients (mirc, xchat, etc.) and it`s nearly impossible to beat their stage of development. Also said irc is not the most used and not the most profitable protocols.
Next idea is quite similar. You know icq people search? There you can find people in your city. Implement an internal search function and allow to visit the icq people search website from aol, maybe you can get an agreement with aol and get some $ for each click.
I finally managed it to create my own acc and not using bugmenot anymore. =)
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Re: wish: mozilla should join the messenger market! instantbird?
ChatZilla has a big downside. It is an add on.Daifne wrote:ChatZilla :: Firefox Add-ons
Mozilla proves with Sunbird that it can make a seperate program beside an add on version. So I agree with MyOwnAcc. Now Mozilla has 3 great products: Firefox, Thunderbird and Sunbird. Maybe it is time to add a fourth I would definitely use it.
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Re: wish: mozilla should join the messenger market! instantbird?
You can run Chatzilla standalone. SeeSamuël wrote:ChatZilla has a big downside. It is an add on.Daifne wrote:ChatZilla :: Firefox Add-ons
ChatZilla on XULRunner
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Re: wish: mozilla should join the messenger market! instantbird?
English only I searched for Dutch (my language): nothing.
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Re: wish: mozilla should join the messenger market! instantbird?
For an Open Source IM Client, how about Pidgin..... It does almost all the Protocols out there.... Its Free and Cross Platform.
http://pidgin.im/
http://pidgin.im/
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