The end of the internet as we know it (ACTA)

[FatJohn]

Details of the secret international agreement leaked. If this treaty will be ratified you and me can pretty much kiss the internet goodbye.

http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/11/04/144240

Here's more info on the secretive subject:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Count ... _Agreement
http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/acta/

[trolly]

No. Just transmit data encrypted. Then the provider can claim they do not know. And the copyright holders have no way to prove.
But then they will add a global data limit for everyone.

Hmmm, what if i share copyrighted material over a VPN using my employers network? Do they cut down the line of a TOP500 company just by sending encrypted data? If i had to clone my work computer there are going about 60GB encrypted data over the line.

[FatJohn]

The thing about ACTA is an accusation is all that's needed. No need to prove anything at all.

It's the global DMCA. The superior tool of censorship, the end of free speech online.

[Uncle Spellbinder]

Playing 'devil's advocate' here...

If I want to share the new Metallica album by uploading for others to download. How is that ''free speech'' ?

[condorito]

I see physical media making a come back for sharing.

[FatJohn]

Playing 'devil's advocate' here...

If I want to share the new Metallica album by uploading for others to download. How is that ''free speech'' ?

I don't think it is.

[MeCasa]

This is obviously a complex subject (especially concerning the legaleze in the agreement). But what reading I've done gives me the impression that these same rules are currently in affect in the US, does anybody know if this is the case? If so then they haven't had much affect on how I act.

Don't get me wrong, I'm an old pirate who ran an underground music server for many a year. I'd like to see an internet that resembles the wild west, but I'm also pragmatic. We're going to have rules, just keep them realistic.

[FatJohn]

Actually the ACTA is far stricter and different content. The DMCA is only a part of it. Of course it's hard to know what ACTA really is all about since it's a secret. Which is a huge part of the problem. When something that's obviously not national security related is kept hidden because it supposedly is, you know it stinks to high heaven.

The difference is the news you don't read, since they were taken down or not written in the first place since they'd be taken down. It's the products you don't buy since you don't know about them and which weren't manufactured because there would be no market. It's the data that isn't there simply because it's forbidden to know.

[Omega X]

This is going to go to the Supreme Court if passed here, easily. I can't see the EFF and others standing by while this passed.

[Grumpus]

Getting past the details of the agreement, which apparently are not carved in stone with some of the most prolific intellectual property thieves, enforcement and justice will be an unbelievable maze of interpretation, judgment and recovery or penalty on already overworked national justice systems.
Considering how many millions of individuals who perform these acts unknowingly would be placed in jeopardy, possibly brought to the stocks as easy prosecutions, just how many of those practiced and knowing of such transgressions will come to a similar reckoning?