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I replaced all my legacy extensions with ones that were either ported (e.g., NoScript, uBlock, ...) or new ones that do the same thing as legacy (e.g., Cookie Auto Delete).

As Brummelchen noted, unless you have a vast number of extensions or some weird ones, you should be able to find what you want for Quantum.

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do u think quantum would ever have as rich addons library as the legacy one?
No.
Not in quality. Not in quantity. Not in support by users or extension authors.
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Brummelchen wrote:It already has and will grow because of developement.

List your current and we might find a replacement.
these are must help me alot n save time

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do u think quantum would ever have as rich addons library as the legacy one?
Yes

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iK4l3l wrote:do u think quantum would ever have as rich addons library as the legacy one?
IMO, no chance. There's too much that is dis-allowed in WebExtensions vs. what was capable with Legacy extensions. Plus, when Quantum was first released back in November there was a dearth if API's that were needed for all too many popular extensions. That has been improved to a certain extension as more API's have been added to the mix, but IMO there's still a long way to go yet.

And as far a themes go, that was basically killed a few years ago. All that's left is the "weak sister" partial themes that are very ineffective when compared to Firefox 1.0 up thru like Firefox 28 or so. I'd be willing to bet that the support contributors around here are more likely to be using SeaMonkey for their "default" browser that they are using Firefox. I for one, still use primarily older versions of Firefox, although I have been dipping my toes in the Quantum pool, but I am waiting for the water to get quite a bit warmer before I wade in knee deep.
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do u know any replacement for these legacy addons?

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the-edmeister wrote:Is there a connection between the Thunderbird project and the SeaMonkey project besides them both being cast-off from Mozilla?
Yep, there is a constant interchange of information between the two projects, albeit a very one-sided one, i.e. T/Bird don't need much from SM.

However, I can think of 2 T/Bird complete themes in their top 16 that they wouldn't have, if not for SM. But that's pretty much zero impact in the scheme of things.
the-edmeister wrote:I realize that SeaMonkey was "divorced" years before Thunderbird, or is "also" hosting of both being together with addons part of continued financial support from the non-profit side of Mozilla?
I suspect the hosting was more of a favour from T/Bird, who have their own, self-reliant, financial support these days. To put this into context, I could have hosted that lot and not noticed.

Websites like that are more a damn hard work problem, rather than a financial one.

iK4l3l wrote:do u think quantum would ever have as rich addons library as the legacy one?
No, never. Both by definition of how Webextensions work and by browser UI company policy that will not happen.

Let's be realistic, if Google Chrome, with their resources, could never/have never come up with an addon system as diverse, versatile and extensive as the Firefox legacy addon system was, then this latest bunch of Firefox perps are hardly likely to, i.e. track record, etc. Certainly, you can kiss goodbye to the Custom Buttons ext. for a start.

As for the performance, xul removal and privacy claims relating to Firefox 57 - 60 made by Mozilla, all I can say is they must have all recently grown bonespurs or something.
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> Is there a connection between the Thunderbird project and the SeaMonkey project besides them both being castoff from Mozilla?

We share a lot of code and the devs talk to each other and try to help and not break the other project with changes. Harder lately with all the breakage coming from Mozilla (who just remove or change what they want in Gecko now not caring about the consequences for TB or SM) to support anything but the own project. SeaMonkey is essentially not supported from Mozilla. If you donate to Mozilla directly neither TB nor SeaMonkey see a dime. They basically removed all references to SM from their web page. Some support is still given but it is mostly some employees helping out. TB is better off but to be expected to separate later.
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Frank Lion wrote:
iK4l3l wrote:do u think quantum would ever have as rich addons library as the legacy one?
No, never. Both by definition of how Webextensions work and by browser UI company policy that will not happen.

Let's be realistic, if Google Chrome, with their resources, could never/have never come up with an addon system as diverse, versatile and extensive as the Firefox legacy addon system was, then this latest bunch of Firefox perps are hardly likely to, i.e. track record, etc. Certainly, you can kiss goodbye to the Custom Buttons ext. for a start.

As for the performance, xul removal and privacy claims relating to Firefox 57 - 60 made by Mozilla, all I can say is they must have all recently grown bonespurs or something.
u mean it is not possible to make such rich addons as legacy with the new firefox? it simply dont let u code anything u want and make any addon?
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can i install quantum separately from v47 and use both of them same time?
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iK4l3l wrote:u mean it is not possible to make such rich addons as legacy with the new firefox? it simply dont let u code anything u want and make any addon?
Yes, either because of technical limitations or UI policy ones. For some reason, some people pretend the latter doesn't exist and keep banging on 'the APIs for that aren't ready yet', as though if you just wait long enough then the technical limitations will be overcome. They are deluded.

But, who knows? As this is all about user choice, then your needs might be satisfied by what they have to offer and all will be well - for you. But, on your broader original question, the answer still remains as no, it will never be as it was.
iK4l3l wrote:can i install quantum separately from v47 and use both of them same time?
Yep, the portable version would be the easiest route, but there are better methods and Ed is the one to ask on that.

For specialised reasons, I use a different, very effective, but heavy handed method that I don't recommend for most people's needs.
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Frank Lion wrote:
iK4l3l wrote:u mean it is not possible to make such rich addons as legacy with the new firefox? it simply dont let u code anything u want and make any addon?
Yes, either because of technical limitations or UI policy ones. For some reason, some people pretend the latter doesn't exist and keep banging on 'the APIs for that aren't ready yet', as though if you just wait long enough then the technical limitations will be overcome. They are deluded.

But, who knows? As this is all about user choice, then your needs might be satisfied by what they have to offer and all will be well - for you. But, on your broader original question, the answer still remains as no, it will never be as it was.
iK4l3l wrote:can i install quantum separately from v47 and use both of them same time?
Yep, the portable version would be the easiest route, but there are better methods and Ed is the one to ask on that.

For specialised reasons, I use a different, very effective, but heavy handed method that I don't recommend for most people's needs.
is ed edmeister? if so can u help me how i can install quantum and v47 n be able to use both at the same time ?
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iK4l3l wrote:do u know any replacement for these legacy addons?
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iK4l3l wrote:
Frank Lion wrote:
iK4l3l wrote:can i install quantum separately from v47 and use both of them same time?
Yep, the portable version would be the easiest route, but there are better methods and Ed is the one to ask on that.

For specialised reasons, I use a different, very effective, but heavy handed method that I don't recommend for most people's needs.
is ed edmeister? if so can u help me how i can install quantum and v47 n be able to use both at the same time ?
Posted here and updated over many years: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic ... &t=2821799
That can be very confusing to begin with, but if you are up to the task please read all 5 versions of what I wrote over the years, going back to 2006. The early versions of that included input from many users as to how they did things, which where confusion arose.

As Frank mentioned he has his own way of doing multiple versions & multiple Profiles it as do many other people, myself included with using 4 or 5 ways to get there. I tried to include many ways of accomplishing as posted by other advanced level Firefox users. Unfortunately, I haven't had in me to update it any further after April 2014.

Other than forum thread's here, I won't provide on-on-one support for the process. Too many variables and pre-Firefox 52 ESR version level support is going back way too far for me to recall all the pitfalls.

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