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Post Posted October 20th, 2013, 12:55 am

Hello
Since yesterday, Mozilla blocked the Java 7 plugin update 45 which is yet the latest version of JRE.
Why ?
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/blocked/p463
I read the query, but I do not understand why this version of Java, the most secure, was blocked.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=914690
One person can thus impose his opinion? Strange
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Post Posted October 20th, 2013, 1:58 am

Probably because it's Java. Doesn't matter if it's the latest, it's still Java. Years of bad security-practice leave a mark.
And isn't it just click-to-activate'd instead of blocked?
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Post Posted October 20th, 2013, 2:26 am

Indeed! but this is a little unfair, java applets are useful in science.
Adobe Flash is no more secure without being blocked!
All this is a bit excessive and it is rather that Oracle has no good reputation!

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Post Posted October 20th, 2013, 2:28 am

Modaquitaine wrote:One person can thus impose his opinion? Strange
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You know two seconds on any search engine would have saved you looking foolish
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Post Posted October 20th, 2013, 3:04 am

Excuse me, but I do not understand what you mean!

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Post Posted October 20th, 2013, 4:16 am

Did you try typing Benjamin Smedberg into a search engine?
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Post Posted October 20th, 2013, 4:32 am

Yes ! No comment !

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Post Posted October 20th, 2013, 4:22 pm

Ok then I will comment. I think this is the most intelligent proactive move Mozilla have made in many years. Pity they didn't have the guts to do it in regards to other sleazy toolbars and addons.
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Post Posted October 20th, 2013, 5:34 pm

Modaquitaine wrote:Indeed! but this is a little unfair, java applets are useful in science.
Adobe Flash is no more secure without being blocked!
All this is a bit excessive and it is rather that Oracle has no good reputation!


Abode at least has a history of fixing their security holes. There are MAJOR exploits in ALL versions of Java which were reported a year ago that Oracle is either unable or unwilling to fix. Apple has stopped shipping Java with new computers, and Google is slated to completely remove support for legacy browser plugins (including Java) for Chrome early next year. The writing is on the wall for Java on the web.

It's still being used heavily in business and intranet systems, as well for commercial hardware controllers, but online, most of what Java used to be used for is now done easier, and safer in Flash, JavaScript and HTML5.
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Post Posted October 21st, 2013, 5:14 am

All this is true but for 6 months, Oracle made ​​great efforts to secure JRE, regularly renew JRE versions, so that Java was not blocked in Firefox except now! Why? No replies to this!
But the transition to HTML5 is expected without plugins, but there will still java-scripts ..

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Post Posted October 21st, 2013, 5:20 am

JavaScript has nothing to do with Java.
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Post Posted October 21st, 2013, 5:32 am

Yes, of course, but the java scripts are also security vulnerabilities, this is what I meant.
The words that I raised are out of news :
There are MAJOR exploits in ALL versions of Java which were reported a year ago that Oracle is either unable or unwilling to fix. Apple has stopped shipping Java with new computers

since Oracle has evolved its JRE.

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Post Posted October 21st, 2013, 5:50 am

Modaquitaine wrote:Yes, of course, but the java scripts are also security vulnerabilities, this is what I meant.

The difference is: JS-bugs can be fixed by Mozilla (or every other browser-maker), and JS is used on probably 99% of the web.
Bugs in Java can only be fixed by Oracle, and Java-applets are going the way of the dinosaurs.
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Post Posted October 22nd, 2013, 7:21 pm

Just install this updated extension:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... er/?src=ss

It will solve the problem. It is a great extension by a Moz dev and updated yesterday to work with blocked plugins also. This extension also works on SeaMonkey 2.21 which is where I am using it. (My Fx is still at 17.0.9 ESR and will remain there until automatic internal update is pushed in January. There is no blocking of Java by Mozilla on this version of Fx).

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Post Posted October 22nd, 2013, 9:16 pm

Great idea Scarlett open everyone up to the black hole of disaster Java has become
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