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Apples555
 
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Post Posted September 11th, 2017, 1:43 pm

Hello all,

I'm sorry if this isn't the right place for this question.

I'm a long-time user of Firefox (since 2004) and have been happy with it and continue to be.

But since Youtube rolled out 720p60, playback in Firefox has significant judder. Repeated frames, microstutters, and things of that nature.

I chalked it up to the machine's age (2010 MacBook Pro), but then noticed something interesting. The issue only occurs in Boot Camp, ie Windows 7 x64. The issue doesn't occur while running Firefox in OS X. More interestingly, 720p60 plays back just fine in Opera under Windows. Even more interestingly, 720p60 plays back fine even in Mozilla's Seamonkey under Windows! It only judders in Firefox (in Windows).

All my drivers are up to date. I thought this was a good a time as any to reinstall Windows 7 and just did so, however the problem remains. Judder, only in 720p60, only in Windows, and only in Firefox.

Here is my troubleshooting info. I've been chasing this problem for a little over a year without results.

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Isn't Seamonkey based on Firefox?

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Post Posted September 11th, 2017, 1:51 pm

Isn't Seamonkey based on Firefox?

Yes, the basic rendering engine is. Which suggests it might be something in the Firefox profile.
Have you tried starting Firefox in Mozilla Safe Mode? http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_mode
If no improvement using Safe Mode, do you have the same problem if you create a new profile and test it with no extensions or non-default themes installed?
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_Manager
and
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Creating_a_ne ... on_Windows

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Post Posted September 11th, 2017, 2:08 pm

Apples555 wrote:
Isn't Seamonkey based on Firefox?

SeaMonkey is a continuation of the old Mozilla suite as it was started by community after Mozilla dropped the Mozilla suite at version 1.7.13 back in 2006. It is not based on Firefox as it shares much of its development and the Firefox browser actually branched off from the suite when it was known by first name of Phoenix 0.1 in 2002 (later briefly as Firebird for 0.6/0.7 then Firefox from 0.8 and on).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Application_Suite
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SeaMonkey

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Post Posted September 11th, 2017, 2:09 pm

Just tested. Safe mode doesn't produce the characteristic judder, but it also doesn't hit anywhere near 60 fps in safe mode. I am guessing hardware acceleration is disabled in safe mode.

New profile produces the issue. Just tested the same video in Seamonkey without problems.

Thank you for the information, James. Perhaps the video renderer is different.

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Post Posted September 11th, 2017, 4:03 pm

Just tested Pale Moon. No judder.

I hope it is clear what I mean by judder. It is not simply dropped frames. It's rapidly switching between old and new frames, producing very janky motion.

It seems like the problem is completely isolated to Firefox, which is a shame because most of my online life is concentrated in Firefox (everything synced to Firefox Sync etc.) and I like the browser if not for this one compatibility issue between my machine and Firefox.

No problems under OS X or on my desktop running Windows 8.1 with a GTX 950.

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Post Posted September 12th, 2017, 5:56 pm

Is there no way to continue using Firefox on this computer?

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Post Posted September 12th, 2017, 6:25 pm

You could use Firefox for most things and an alternate browser for video. Or, for fun try beta of 56, or even nightly.

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Post Posted September 13th, 2017, 2:36 am

I don't have a problem with it. Here are the stats I was getting with h/w acceleration disabled: https://i.imgur.com/Ubs6Jst.png

The FF version I'm running is ESR 52.3.0

I am running Windows 8.1 though and the later OS could account for the better performance.

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Post Posted September 13th, 2017, 9:08 am

URL to the particular clip?
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 Pinball CopyURL+ FetchTextURL FlashGot NoScript

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Post Posted September 14th, 2017, 6:32 am

You mentioned that your drivers are up to date, but according to the specs you posted it reads "driverVersion": "8.17.12.6141" and "driverDate": "1-19-2011". The latest version for your system which has nVidia 320M graphics is this one released in 2016: http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverRe ... 2598/en-us

I suggest you use DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) from Wagnardsoft to uninstall the current drivers before installing the upgrade. https://www.wagnardsoft.com/forums/view ... 0774f7c535

You can download DDU from here: https://www.wagnardsoft.com/forums/view ... 0774f7c535

Once you've upgraded your drivers to the version the system will support, the problem may well disappear.

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Post Posted September 16th, 2017, 4:00 pm

Try to increase these prefs on the about:config page:
media.cache_readhead_limit => 9999
media.cache_resume_treshold => 9999

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