Is it possible to upgrade Certificates in an older Firefox?

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Is it possible to upgrade Certificates in an older Firefox?

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Hi guys 'n' gals,
A quick Q? re; my old Firefox v20.
I am experiencing a few instances where "any site" I go to gives me messages such as...
Secure Connection Failed
An error occurred during a connection to http://www.businessinsider.com.

Cannot communicate securely with peer: no common encryption algorithm(s).

(Error code: ssl_error_no_cypher_overlap)

&...
Secure Connection Failed
An error occurred during a connection to forums.aardvark.co.nz.

Peer reports incompatible or unsupported protocol version.

(Error code: ssl_error_protocol_version_alert)
Is this down to the old/er Certificates or something else?
Possibly Digicert/Symantec & Associated partners being termed as "Un-trusted" by "Mozilla/Firefox" now?
Is it possible to update the old/er Certificates in v20 to the later v57 or v61.......IF this is the problem?

Ta muchly..
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Re: Is it possible to upgrade Certificates in an older Firef

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I guess the sites changed to TLS handshake and V20 only supports SSL.
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Re: Is it possible to upgrade Certificates in an older Firef

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Hi trolly,
Thanks for that info.
Can't say that I understand it but thanks anyway. :)
I suppose it has more to do with Security?, than old/er Certificates?

It's getting like the latest cars are now all computer controlled & are very, no, extremely complicated,
compared to the "older" cars, where one could actually repair/fix/tune them yourself.
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Re: Is it possible to upgrade Certificates in an older Firef

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Yeah, current Nightly has also automatically started distrusting certain certificates as well.
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Hi TS2,
I know. I am currently watching Steve Gibson's latest vodcast, #678, in which he mentions that particular item.
Firefox v63 is where it all starts.

All the same for later Chrome versions...68 or so?
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Re: Is it possible to upgrade Certificates in an older Firef

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The TLS vs SSL problem has to do with security. A SSL handshake can be broken and then the connection is unprotected. TLS does not have this problem (yet).
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Re: Is it possible to upgrade Certificates in an older Firef

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Firefox 20 supports TLS 1.0. SSL 2.0 and SSL 3.0 are insecure.

The business insider site only supports TLS 1.2.

SSL, TLS and web browsers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_ ... b_browsers

Difference between SSL, TLS and HTTPS
http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/5126

TLS server test (open ip address link in new tab to view summary)
https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/
https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze ... nsider.com

TLS browser test (mouseover "Yes" next to TLS 1.3 to view draft number)
https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/viewMyClient.html
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Thank you to all who replied.
Much appreciated.
I shall just have to use one of my later versions when I strike trouble with v20
& hope that it/she/he keeps on functioning in here.....after this site/fora gets upgraded. ;)
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Re: Is it possible to upgrade Certificates in an older Firef

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Firefox did not support TLS 1.2 by default until Fx 27.0 and TLS 1.3 (draft-23) as of Fx 60.0
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