Firefox uses a LOT of memory

madkiwi · Post by **madkiwi** » October 23rd, 2018, 10:04 pm

I recently upgraded from FF ESR 52.0.1 to FF ESR 60.0. Apart from the lack of customization that I enjoyed with various add-ons I was getting used to it.

But a couple days this week I would leave my laptop running, go away for a while and return to find an error message from Windows (7, 64 bit) that I was low on resources, and FF had crashed. When I checked out Process Explorer it would tell me that peak memory usage had been something like 99.3% of my memory (8 GB).

Today I noticed that with FF running the process tree shows 6 instances of FF, totaling (at a minimum) 2 GB of ram, and over time it keeps going up and up, so far today it has been up to 4.5 GB. That's with about 8-10 tabs open.

So I go look at my desktop, still using ESR 52.0.1. Currently it has 28 tabs open, and is using 1.44 GB of memory.

How is it that the newer version, with 1/4 of the open tabs is using between 2 and 3 times as much memory? And why does it eventually get to the point where it uses all the available memory and then crashes?

What kind of tomfoolery is this?

kluless · Post by **kluless** » October 24th, 2018, 5:36 am

I've had a problem with memory usage too. Only running FF and Irfanview (image processor) I've had 'out of memory' errors a couple of times since updating to 63

Looking at resource monitor there are 4 FF processes using around 2Gb between them, I'm guessing that the 4 processes are the 4 tabs that I have open...

Brummelchen · Post by **Brummelchen** » October 24th, 2018, 5:56 am

no hijacking pls - each problem is unique although solutions may be same.

concerning upgrade from esr to esr. multiprocess was introduced long before v52, was v48.
create a freesh profile that may resolve all - pre-quantum remnants are gone.

create a new profile
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Creating_a_ne ... on_Windows
or
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_Manager

This article explains how to selectively transfer Firefox user data and settings to a new Firefox profile
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Transferring_ ... _-_Firefox

this is recommended, i would say mandatory.
start without extensions and watch memory. if fine go install extension by extension and watch menory meanwhile, maybe you find the culprit.

if no fortune it most possible is an antivirus - which one are you using?
it may help uninstalling it complete - disabling wont help.

same for kluless - create a new profile, uninstall a possible antivirus.

my firefox 65 with ~33 extensions is using <1gb memory and 6 instances (default here) for 2 open tabs. i can tell you that firefox is fine.

therube · Post by **therube** » October 24th, 2018, 9:54 am

I was low on resources

Just rambling here, Not Enough Storage Space Is Available To Process The Command.

Basically, I have gotten into situations where, browsers in general; FF, SeaMonkey, Waterfox... have done "something", used up resources or whatnot, where they negatively impacted unrelated applications (most notable, for me, in media players).

jscher2000 · Post by **jscher2000** » October 24th, 2018, 10:11 am

madkiwi wrote:Today I noticed that with FF running the process tree shows 6 instances of FF, totaling (at a minimum) 2 GB of ram, and over time it keeps going up and up, so far today it has been up to 4.5 GB. That's with about 8-10 tabs open.

Firefox is a multiprocess application. For more control over the number of content processes, see: https://support.mozilla.org/kb/performance-settings

4.5GB sounds like a lot for half a day, unless you tend to keep open a lot of infinite scrolling pages (like FB news feed). Firefox holds on to memory used in a tab that just keeps loading more stuff.

Anyway, do you need to free up memory for something else? The OS should clamp down on Firefox if it needs memory to be released.

madkiwi · Post by **madkiwi** » October 25th, 2018, 10:06 am

jscher2000 wrote:Anyway, do you need to free up memory for something else? The OS should clamp down on Firefox if it needs memory to be released.

In my original post I mentioned that Firefox keeps growing and eventually crashes. Windows pops up a warning just before it happens. So yes, I do need the memory for something else. Namely, everything else.

dfoulkes · Post by **dfoulkes** » October 25th, 2018, 10:38 am

One of the things that I finally found out was that an update to the add-on Stylish was causing my Firefox to constantly grow in memory, plus, if I had only one tab open Firefox would never go below 50% cpu usage. Took awhile to figure out it was a Stylish update that caused it.. so, installed Stylus, imported my styles that I backed up prior to removing Stylish... and all is now good... That was all happening on my latest ESR version....so, if you use Stylish you might want to temp-disable it and then check out performance.

Brummelchen · Post by **Brummelchen** » October 26th, 2018, 8:53 am

and eventually crashes

provide some information please (text, not raw)
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/us ... ix-firefox

Viewing crash reports: To view your crash reports from within Firefox:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/mo ... sh-reports
Submit a link, looks like this

Code: Select all

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/271f01...

madkiwi · Post by **madkiwi** » October 26th, 2018, 9:10 pm

Hi Brummelchen,

Thanks for taking an interest, if you can help in any way I would greatly appreciate it. All this is way beyond my pay-grade. I don't understand any of it!

Madkiwi

Here's the latest crash report-
https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/ ... 7c60181027

Troubleshooting information-

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Important Locked Preferences
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JavaScript
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Accessibility
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Activated: false
Prevent Accessibility: 0
Accessible Handler Used: true
Accessibility Instantiator:

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NSPR
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NSS
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NSSSMIME
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therube · Post by **therube** » October 28th, 2018, 5:21 am

Report points towards your (relatively ancient ?) AVAST.
Disable its interference, or remove it altogether & see if your crashes stop.

Brummelchen · Post by **Brummelchen** » October 28th, 2018, 7:21 am

uninstall betterprivacy, noscript, tabmix plus, adb-helper

and ofc avast, cleaner -> https://www.getavast.net/downloads/uninstall-utility

anyway - just what i thought:

concerning upgrade from esr to esr. multiprocess was introduced long before v52, was v48.
create a freesh profile that may resolve all - pre-quantum remnants are gone.

Firefox uses a LOT of memory

Firefox uses a LOT of memory

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