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Linkster · Post by **Linkster** » December 10th, 2003, 1:43 pm

is there a reason mozilla firebird, et al can't render www.msn.com correctly? at first, i thought it was a MS conspiracy, but then it loads and looks great in Opera. what gives? Until firebird can render all the pages our family frequents, i can't see moving to it as primary.

Pike · Post by **Pike** » December 10th, 2003, 1:59 pm

Could you be more precise, exactly what is the problem?

p.s. If you just mean they look different that is because msn sends different versions to different browsers.

Äkiidoll · Post by **Äkiidoll** » December 10th, 2003, 2:05 pm

I dont see any issues with msn.com in either Gecko
browser, all the fly-out menus, images, links, and
downloads work properly. FWIW 6 mos. ago the
fly-out menus were dead in Gecko browsers so
I sent them an email reagarding the issue, 2wks
later the fly-out menus were re-written and
have worked properly every since then. Im a web
designer, Im veiwing the msn.com in Firebird 0.7+,
Mozilla 1.5, and IE 5.5, I only see rendering differences
in text box layout, but nothing that prohibits me from
using the site, what are you seeing/not seeing?
msn.com site code is not Standards compliant but
its not making the site un-useable in Gecko browsers.
Geck0 r0cks

Linkster · Post by **Linkster** » December 10th, 2003, 2:13 pm

Hmm, interesting. its the 4 "sections" that don't render right. in mozilla, they show up all vertically instead of 2x2. Can mozilla be set to identify itself as IE? maybe that would do it.

honky · Post by **honky** » December 10th, 2003, 2:13 pm

Using: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 Firebird/0.7

Everything looks fine on msn.com - nearly identical to IE. what exactly is the problem?

Pike · Post by **Pike** » December 10th, 2003, 2:17 pm

I just tested with wget, if I identify as wget or FB I get vertical sections, if I identify as IE I get 2x2 sections, so please don't blame this on Firebird.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » December 10th, 2003, 2:19 pm

Pike wrote:I just tested with wget, if I identify as wget or FB I get vertical sections, if I identify as IE I get 2x2 sections, so please don't blame this on Firebird.

that would explain it then....figures MS would do something like that. Is there a facility in firebird to identify itself as another browser?

asquithea · Post by **asquithea** » December 10th, 2003, 2:25 pm

User Agent Switcher extension

Äkiidoll · Post by **Äkiidoll** » December 10th, 2003, 2:25 pm

Anonymous wrote:
Pike wrote:I just tested with wget, if I identify as wget or FB I get vertical sections, if I identify as IE I get 2x2 sections, so please don't blame this on Firebird.

that would explain it then....figures MS would do something like that. Is there a facility in firebird to identify itself as another browser?

They use browser sniffing code, if you visit in IE it
serves an IE version of the code, if you visit in Gecko
it serves a Gecko version of the code. Whats wrong with
viewing the site in the vertical text box layout instead
of the 2x2? :roll:

Browser sniffing is nothing new, I wrote
some for my latest clients web site, view the Homepage,
then scroll to the bottom about adding the site to bookmarks,
it views different in Gecko and IE.
http://www.art-poetrybykiesha.com/

Linkster · Post by **Linkster** » December 10th, 2003, 2:27 pm

nevermind, i found an extension to do it, and now it does do the 2x2, but other things are messed up. I guess i'll just have to live with it. Thanks for your help

Page rendering

Page rendering

Works for me