Firefox and Helvetica

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AndyN02
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Firefox and Helvetica

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Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070725 Firefox/2.0.0.6


font-family: Helvetica;
font-size: 14px;

the content of my site is nearly unreadable. Sometimes there is no space betwen the Letters.
even with CSS (letter-spacing: 0.5pt;) some have still no space between them others gets 3px (Space between words = 4px)

in IE no problem, even with a non Anti aliasing (Clear Type) IE 6 / 5.5.

is ther any posibility to fix this with CSS?
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Example page? It is possible that you do not have Helvetica and the system choses a different font as replacement. Or your Helvetica font is damaged.
None of my XP boxes have the Helvetica font installed so i will see a replacement.

You can try: font-family: Helvetica,sans-serif;

Without seeing the page we have to guess.
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Post by AndyN02 »

font-family: Helvetica,Trebuchet MS,Trebuchet,Verdana,Arial;
which i have.

with Trebuchet MS it looks good. but my client wants to have that stupid Helvetica :(
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Sample page?
Which system is your client running?
You have to tell him that Helvetica is not available on most systems by default because it must be licensed.

http://www.linotype.com/helvetica?urlre ... EgoduHTrZA
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If you open the Helvetica font in the control panel does it look right?
Is it possible to give the URL of the page?

If you check the letters you will see that it is not the same font. Example: the little a, g and e. They look different in FF to IE.
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Post by AndyN02 »

IE, Netscape and Opera looks alright (all on the same system!)
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Looks absolutely fine to me (when i remove the letter-spacing). Can see no difference to the IE image.
Either your Helvetica font is damaged or something is interfering.
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Standard_diag ... Firefox%29

Edit:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\FontSubstitutes

Normally Helvetica is simply replaced by Arial.
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Post by AndyN02 »

Thx! Helvetica is simply replaced by Arial but firefox dose not seem to know ^^
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At least not for you. It does for me.
You can check if the replacement table is still correct for you.
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Re: Firefox and Helvetica

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Since i updated from Firefox 3.x to Firefox 4 some Websites (using Helvetica in font-face) are shown in a very bold font. I'ts definitly a FF4 Problem - bevore the update everithing was ok! It startet with FF4!

I quit using FF. 3 was bad, an 4 is not better. Enough is enough. FF ist the worst browser since Netscpace 4.75 for Mac an since Internet Explorer 6!
FF4 is still slow and instable.
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If you had bothered to read this four year old thread you would have noted the original poster was using
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070725 Firefox/2.0.0.6
But you claim it is a Firefox 4 problem :-k
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Re: Firefox and Helvetica

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Locking due to age. Please make a new thread.
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