How do I change the Server Type from Local Mail Store to POP

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Montana Bob
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How do I change the Server Type from Local Mail Store to POP

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How do I change the "Server Type" from "Local Mail Store" to "POP" under "Server Type" in "Account Settings/Server Settings"?

I know that I can create a new account with the POP setting but they I have to deal with moving 15 Gb of eMail message in close to a hundred different files and hundreds of eMail addresses organized into directories, soooooo . . . creating a new account is out of the question.

Sure would appreciate some help on this. I've been fighting this for about 15 hours!

Thanks!

Harvey
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Re: How do I change the Server Type from Local Mail Store to

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By "Local Mail Store" do you mean the "Local Folders" special account? It doesn't have a server type as it is not a full fledged account, it doesn't have any settings to get or send messages for example.

You can't convert "Local Folders" to a POP account using the account settings menu. However, you can drag and drop a entire folder hierarchy in Thunderbird, you don't have to move each separately. If you want to move a folder tree from "Local Folders" to a existing POP account that should be very reliable as there would be no network traffic. You might just need to select all of the messages in the inbox (since the destination folder already exists), move them in one step, and then select its child folder and drag and drop it and its children in one step.

Another possibility would be to re-configure an existing POP account to use a global inbox. That will hide the POP account and its folders in the folder pane, and use the folders in "Local Folders" instead. If you want to do that copy/move the folders/messages from the POP account to Local Folders first, since once you configure it to use a global inbox the accounts old folders are no longer accessible. See http://kb.mozillazine.org/Global_Inbox . Note that when you configure a POP account to use a global inbox "Local Folders" still doesn't have a server type, you're basically just changing where the downloaded mail is stored and hiding the POP account in the folder pane.

Why do you want to do this? If I understood that I might be able to suggest a better solution.
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Re: How do I change the Server Type from Local Mail Store to

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Tanstaafl,

First of all, my sincere thanks for responding.

In answer to your question regarding the wording of the server identification, no it is not "Local Folders". It is, "LOCAL MAIL STORE".

I have had a major problem with TB for several years and just haven't had the time to deal with it. The problem is that, somewhere along the way, two profiles appeared in "Explorer", but the second profile did not appear in TB. Profile names were "CDEE3SIX.DEFAULT" and "3SAPA2E6.DEFAULT", (without the quotes). The problem was/is that the files were intermixed meaning that deleting one of them rendered the other unusable. Having multiple profiles makes it impossible to make any revisions such as changing my password, or modifying any of the options such as leaving mail on the server, setting minutes between message access, etc. The bottom line is that it an incredible mess. Several days ago, I discovered that, suddenly, I was no longer able to download eMail messages from my ISP. At first I assumed that the problem was with their server(s), which has happened in the past. They told me that there was no problem on their end and then I realized that that they were correct, as I was/am able to download messages using my Android tablet and my wife's Win 8.1 laptop.

I should also mention, up front, that I have used TB since its inception and used Netscape before that. (I've been on the web since

1995, so there is a massive accumulation of eMail messages many of which I have kept and will continue to do so, primarily for business reasons.) As you can imagine, I have complex directories for the storing of messages in the "Folders" file. I also have thousands of eMail addresses organized into many folders.

(Tried to insert a number of screen captures to display the dialog boxes but don't know how.)

I have trying everything that I can think of to rectify these issues, including backing up eMail messages and addresses with MozBackUp 1.5.1, dumping the "prefs.js" file, creating new accounts in TB, you name it. I have also tried modifying the "Prefs.js" file. I discovered that there was a bogus address, with the name "nobody@Local%20Folders" which I replaced with "bestimag@pop.montana.com" which I found in a new "Prefs.js" file created in a "clean" install of TB. I have been successful in eliminating the second profile, (3SAPA2E6.DEFAULT), which I determined was the bad one. The problem is that with that profile gone, the account in TB, containing all of my eMail messages addresses, is now identified as a special account with the following wording appearing directly below "Account Setting" in that window: "The following is a special account. There are no identies associated with it." When clicking on "Server Setting", "Server Type" indentifies it as "LOCAL MAIL STORE". (A search through the "prefs.js" file reveals no such wording.) Based on that I am unable to use that account to download new messages. The work-around that I have found is the creation of a second account which I am using to download messages. This new account contains only 2 folders, "Inbox" and "Trash". Once downloaded, I manually move them the "Inbox" in the new account to the "Inbox" in the original account containing all folders and directories. (eMail Addresses appear in both accounts, but I have been unable to restore the message files to the new account using MozBackUp.)

Soooooo . . . my goal is to accomplish one of the following:

Option #1: Modify the original account/profile to remove the "special" aspect in addition to removing the "Local Mail Store" designation from it replacing it with the proper "POP Mail Server" designation. Once the foregoing has been accomplished, I want to eliminate the second account containing on an "Inbox" and "Trash" folders.

Option #2: Copy or transfer all eMail messages into the new account with the "POP Mail Server" designation after which I could eliminate the old account.

My apologies for being so verbose but, as can be seen the issue is complex, at least to me!

Tried to include my present "Prefs.js" file, (it's a big one!) but it exceed the 60k character limit, so I will send it in subsequent replies, probably in two parts.

Sure hope that you can help me through this mess! Thanks again!

Harvey
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Re: How do I change the Server Type from Local Mail Store to

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Tanstaafl,

Here's the first part of my present "prefs.js" file:

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user_pref("mail.identity.id1.tmpl_folder_picker_mode", "0");
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user_pref("mail.identity.id10.attach_signature", false);
user_pref("mail.identity.id10.attach_vcard", false);
user_pref("mail.identity.id10.auto_quote", true);
user_pref("mail.identity.id10.compose_html", true);
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user_pref("mail.identity.id10.doBcc", false);
user_pref("mail.identity.id10.doBccList", "");
user_pref("mail.identity.id10.draft_folder", "mailbox://nobody@Local%20Folders/Drafts");
user_pref("mail.identity.id10.drafts_folder_picker_mode", "0");
user_pref("mail.identity.id10.escapedVCard", "");
user_pref("mail.identity.id10.fcc", true);
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user_pref("mail.identity.id10.fcc_folder_picker_mode", "0");
user_pref("mail.identity.id10.fcc_reply_follows_parent", false);
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user_pref("mail.identity.id10.reply_on_top", 1);
user_pref("mail.identity.id10.reply_to", "");
user_pref("mail.identity.id10.showSaveMsgDlg", false);
user_pref("mail.identity.id10.sig_bottom", true);
user_pref("mail.identity.id10.sig_date", 0);
user_pref("mail.identity.id10.sig_file", "C:\\Documents and Settings\\Bob\\Application Data\\Thunderbird\\Signature\\BI Signature in HTML.txt");
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Montana Bob
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Re: How do I change the Server Type from Local Mail Store to

Post by Montana Bob »

Tanstaafl,

Here's the second part of my present "prefs.js" file:

Hope that you can help me! Many thanks again!

Harvey

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user_pref("mail.identity.id11.tmpl_folder_picker_mode", "0");
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user_pref("mail.identity.id12.compose_html", true);
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user_pref("mail.identity.id12.smtpServer", "smtp2");
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user_pref("mail.identity.id12.tmpl_folder_picker_mode", "0");
user_pref("mail.identity.id12.useremail", "GHLAlliance@yourbestimage.com");
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user_pref("mail.identity.id13.tmpl_folder_picker_mode", "0");
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user_pref("mail.identity.id14.sig_file-rel", "[ProfD]../../Signature/BI Signature in HTML.txt");
user_pref("mail.identity.id14.smtpServer", "smtp2");
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user_pref("mail.identity.id14.tmpl_folder_picker_mode", "0");
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user_pref("mail.identity.id15.compose_html", true);
user_pref("mail.identity.id15.directoryServer", "");
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user_pref("mail.identity.id15.doBccList", "");
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user_pref("mail.identity.id15.escapedVCard", "");
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user_pref("mail.identity.id2.reply_on_top", 1);
user_pref("mail.identity.id2.smtpServer", "smtp2");
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user_pref("mail.identity.id2.tmpl_folder_picker_mode", "0");
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user_pref("mail.identity.id4.compose_html", true);
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user_pref("mail.identity.id4.smtpServer", "smtp2");
user_pref("mail.identity.id4.stationery_folder", "mailbox://nobody@Local%20Folders/Templates");
user_pref("mail.identity.id4.useremail", "RawlingsInd@YourBestImage.com");
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user_pref("mail.identity.id5.compose_html", true);
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Re: How do I change the Server Type from Local Mail Store to

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user_pref("mail.accountmanager.accounts", "account1,account6"); says you have two accounts (1 and 6). Each account normally has a corresponding server with the same id, which has most of the settings. If an account isn't listed in mail.accountmanager.accounts its normally ignored, even if you still have account and server settings for it in prefs.js.

user_pref("mail.accountmanager.localfoldersserver", "server1"); says account 1 / server 1 is Local Folders. That is consistent with user_pref("mail.server.server1.hostname", "Local Folders"); and user_pref("mail.server.server1.type", "none"); (saying there is no account type)

However, I didn't spot any data for account 6 / server 6. Instead I found
user_pref("mail.server.server2.hostname", "pop.montana.com");
user_pref("mail.server.server2.type", "pop3");
user_pref("mail.server.server2.name", "BestImag@Montana.com");

which is consistent with it being your only POP account. However, I don't understand why it isn't account 6 / server 6. I'll take another look at your prefs.js file later.

Does the folder pane only show Local Folders, a BestImag POP account and a news account, with all new mail showing up in the POP account? I didn't spot a deferred_to_account field , which is used to specify a global inbox (that hides the POP account in the folder pane and new mail shows up in the Local Folders inbox).

My Local Folders special account doesn't have a server type field displayed. That is consistent with your server 1 have a type of none. user_pref("mail.server.server1.storeContractID", "@mozilla.org/msgstore/berkeleystore;1"); and user_pref("mail.server.server2.storeContractID", "@mozilla.org/msgstore/berkeleystore;1"); mean you are using a mbox file. That seems to rule out "Local Mail Store" being displayed due to your using the maildir format. I have IMAP accounts (whose server type is IMAP Mail Server) , a POP account (whose server type is POP Mail Server) and Local Folders (which has no server type) so its not clear to me what would display "Local Mail Store". The only other mail account type I know of is MoveMail, which uses a spool file. I doubt you're using that.

A google search of Thunderbird "Local Mail Store" basically found this thread , https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/doc ... mingServer which used "local mail store" as part of the text explaining the schema, and then random post/articles where local mail store was used as a phrase (not a displayed string) when somebody talked about using mbox files etc. to store messages on the hard disk.

user_pref("mail.server.server1.directory", "C:\\Users\\Bob\\Documents\\1 Bob's eMail");
user_pref("mail.server.server1.directory-rel", "[ProfD]../../../../../Documents/1 Bob's eMail");

seem to specify different locations for where server 1 stores its mail though I guess its possible all the ../ map to the same location despite it not mentioning your windows username. user_pref("mail.root.pop3", "C:\\Documents and Settings\\Bob\\Application Data\\Thunderbird\\Profiles\\cdee3six.default\\Mail"); says your profile is stored in a cdee3six.default directory

Settings that specify a path normally have a absolute (full path) and a relative (the location is specified relative to the top of the profile) version of the same setting. Thunderbird normally uses the relative version of a setting which is why you can move a profile created under Windows to Linux and use it as is, despite Linux having no concept of a drive letter. Anyways it appears your Local Folders account has a Local Directory (it specifies where an account stores it mail folders and message filters) set to use a 1 Bob's eMail directory within the profile, rather than in the default ..\Mail\Local Folders location. Does the Local Folders account use a 1 Bob's eMail directory ?

user_pref("mail.server.server2.directory", "C:\\Users\\Bob\\AppData\\Roaming\\Thunderbird\\Profiles\\cdee3six.default\\Mail\\pop.montana-4.com");
user_pref("mail.server.server2.directory-rel", "[ProfD]Mail/pop.montana-4.com");

is what I'd expect. It says your POP account uses a Local Directory named after the mail server, in the Mail directory of the profile. The -4 suffix can occur if you've created multiple POP accounts (or deleted and re-added the same account multiple times) with the same mail server. It can also occur due to a bug that changes the Local Directory setting behind your back.

Can you post a screen shot of the pane that shows the server type as Local Mail Store? See http://kb.mozillazine.org/Posting_a_scr ... _the_forum
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Re: How do I change the Server Type from Local Mail Store to

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Tanstaafl,

My guess is that you've solved the mystery of the "LOCAL MAIL STORE".

One of the problems which I was experiencing with the dual profiles was that when I wanted to access "SERVER SETTINGS" I was confronted by the following text:

"The Local Directory path "C:\Users\Bob\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles\cdee3six.default" is not suitable for message storage. Please choose another directory."

It is for that reason that I created a file in MY DOCUMENTS entitled 1 BOB'S EMAIL. I just tried to revert back to storing eMail Messages under the profile CDEE3SIX.DEFAULT where it would be normally stored with a properly functioning TB, and was confronted by the same " . . . not suitable for message storage." message. My guess is that there is something remaining in PREFS.JS preventing it. Frankly, I would not object to leaving this setup as it is as it separates the mail files from the address books and other settings.

As things stand right now, I have two accounts: Bestimag@Montana.com and Bob's eMail. The only option for downloading messages is Bestimag. (Clicking the down arrow adjacent to the GET MESSAGES button displays "Get all messages" and "Bestimag@Montana.com. "Bob's eMail" does not appear.) Soooo . . . I download the messages into the Bestimag account and then manually move them into the correct Bob's eMail account. As I mentioned previously the only folders under the BESTIMAG account are INBOX, DRAFTS and TRASH. Outgoing messages are still correctly stored in the SENT folder in the BOB'S EMAIL account.

BTW, as for posting images, is there no way to paste them directly into a "POST A REPLY" message? I'd prefer not to go through the secondary posting site if at all possible.

I should also mention that I have multitudinous drive images created sometimes twice a day recently, so I have access to previous iterations of the PREFS.JS file.

One other thing that would really help me; what are the names of the Address Book files and where are they stored? That would help me as for some reason my present address list is lacking many eMail addresses recently created. With the actual file names, I believe that I should be able to copy the AB files directly into the Profile directory and have, therefore, update my address book.

Tanstaafl, I can't tell you how much I appreciate your assisting me with this massive problem.

Montana Bob
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"BTW, as for posting images, is there no way to paste them directly into a "POST A REPLY" message? I'd prefer not to go through the secondary posting site if at all possible."
Not that I'm aware of.

"The Local Directory path "C:\Users\Bob\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles\cdee3six.default" is not suitable for message storage. Please choose another directory."
That seems fine for a profile (but NOT a account's local directory as its in a profile but not within \Mail or \ImapMail) but I think the code to detect dangerous directories is buggy. What I recommend is to move the profile to a new directory outside the normal directory trees. For example, I use c:\users\eric\profiles to store my Thunderbird and Firefox profiles. That is a location neither Windows or Thunderbird worry about, has a shorter path (so the profile can have a deeper mail folder hierarchy) and its more convenient to find/go to.

what are the names of the Address Book files and where are they stored?
They are *.mab files stored in the profile. Two are predefined - abook.mab (personal address book) and history.mab (collected addresses address book). Any others are ignored unless they are defined in prefs.js. You can use the MoreFunctionsForAddressBook add-on to import a *.mab file. Otherwise you need to do something like export it as a .csv or .ldif file and then import that file in the other profile.
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Re: How do I change the Server Type from Local Mail Store to

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Tanstaafl,

We're makin' progress!!!! Hot d__n!!!!!

ADDRESS BOOK RECOVERY:
With your help, I was able to restore my Address Book from the Recycle Bin where I had dumped a bunch of, what I thought were, junk files. I have normal files like "abook-7.mab" and "abook-7.mab.msf" but I also had "abook-7.mab~V00M1R64" "abook-7.mab~V00M1R64.msf" which I had dumped as I thought that they were just junk. Turns out that they were/are the the files with the most recent addresses. FWIW, I have 14 Address Books in addition to the normal "Personal Address Book" and "Collected Addresses".

RELOCATION OF PROFILES:
I agree that it is much simpler to locate PROFILES in its own custom directory in "My Documents" but I see no option for that in "Account Settings". How do I do that?

Just happened to think that relocating PROFILES may prevent MozBackUp from "seeing" files. Am I correct in that thinking? What about "MoreFunctionsForAddressBook"; will that "see" PROFILES and ADDRESS BOOKS located in other than normal TB locations?

I know that I am repeating myself but I have to say again; thanks so much for sticking with me in sorting out this mess. We've made a lot of progress!

Montana Bob
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See http://kb.mozillazine.org/Moving_your_p ... hunderbird for how to move a profile. Moving the profile to a location and then using the profile manager to create a profile there sounds like it will mess things up but all the profile manager does is update profiles.ini, it doesn't touch the contents of the profile.

Mozbackup looks in profiles.ini to see where profiles are stored. Moving a profile doesn't cause an issue for it since it doesn't have any hard coded knowledge of the default location.
MoreFunctionsForAddressBooks doesn't know about profiles, it just knows how to import *.mab files. It doesn't care if the profile was moved.
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Tanstaafl,

Okay, I think that I'll leave well enough alone and NOT move the PROFILES to a custom location.

At this point, it appears that all that I have left to do is to do either of the following to bring me down to 1 account which does everything. As I have indicated, presently, the only way that I can download messages is to do it using the BestImag@Montana.com account.

Clicking on BESTIMAGE@MONTANA.COM in the Account folders window under "Name", the following items are shown:

EMAIL: Read Messages, Write a new message
ACCOUNTS: View settings for this account, Create a new account: Email, Chat, Newsgroups, Feeds followed by Create a new calendar
ADVANCED FEATURES: Search messages and Manage message filters

Clicking on BOB'S EMAIL in the Account folders window under "Name", the following items are shown:

ACCOUNTS: View settings for this account, Create a new account: Email, Chat, Newsgroups, Feeds followed by Create a new calendar
ADVANCED FEATURES: Search messages and Manage message filters

Sooooooo . . . BestImag@Montana.com is functional for sending and receiving messages but has no message files with the exception of INBOX, DRAFTS and TRASH. Bob's eMail is NOT functional for sending or receiving messages but HAS all message files. The trick is how do we create on account which contains all folders, files, address books, etc. and is capable of sending and receiving messages. In we can combine the two accounts, everything would be fine!

Option 1:
Find a way to eliminate the BestImag@Montana.com account altogether. The problem with this the last time that I tried it was that I was still unable to download messages with the Bob's eMail account where all of the folders are located. For some reason, PROFILES does not recognize the Bob's EMail account.

Option 2:
Find a way to move everything, Message directories, Messages, Address Books, etc. to the BestImag@Montana.com account followed by the deletion of the Bob's eMail account.


ADDED AT 9:52 AM:
I just thought of a third option:
Dump TB altogether, reinstall TB which should create a new PREFS.JS file. Then migrate all messages, address books, settings, etc. I would assume that the PREFS.JS file would be reduced/simplified dramatically. The key here is whether I would not lose anything. That is the risk!


Thanks again!!!!!

Montana Bob
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Uninstalling and re-installing will not create a new prefs.js file since uninstalling does not effect the existing profile. That is by design.

The Bob's EMail account appears to be just a renamed Local Folders account. Thats why it doesn't send or receive new mail, all it is useful for is storing mail and providing a outbox folder used to queue messages if you use Send Later. While its possible to get rid of Local Folders by editing prefs.js I don't recommend it because parts of Thunderbird assume it exists.

You could use the profile manager to create a new profile, use athe new account wizard to add your one POP account and then migrate just your old mail and address books to it. That is a bit of work but would get rid of all of the old junk cluttering up your prefs.js file. It would be easier to cleanup the prefs.js file by editing it manually or via the config editor but I don't think you are comfortable doing that. Creating a new profile and migrating your mail and address books to it is low risk since there is no need to delete anything until after you've used the new profile for a while and are certain you have both moved everything and that you solved al of your problems.

See http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_Manager , http://kb.mozillazine.org/Importing_folders and http://kb.mozillazine.org/Moving_addres ... n_profiles
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Then it would seem to me that I should be able to migrate all messages, directories, files, address books . . . everything to the Bestimag account which would bring me back to normal. I could then rename the Bob's eMail account to its rightful name, Local Folders and then rename the Bestimag account to its proper name Bob's eMail. How do I do that?

Again, Tanstaafl,, thanks for sticking with me!

Montana Bob

PS: BTW, were you to provide me with a personal eMail address, I'd be happy to send you screen captures. My eMail address is: info@YourBestImage.com
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"How do I do that?"

I assume you want to migrate your mail and address books to a new profile, rather than just move mail between accounts and renaming one of them in your existing profile. This is more work but gives you a fresh start (which will resolve a number of problems in your prefs.js file).

1. Create a new profile using the profile manager. This won't effect the existing profile. See http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_Manager
2. Start Thunderbird and it will automatically run the new account wizard. Add your POP account.
3. Copy the address books to the new profile per http://kb.mozillazine.org/Moving_addres ... n_profiles
4. Think about whether you want to re-configure the POP account to use a global inbox. Its simplest/safest not to use one. If you want to use one see http://kb.mozillazine.org/Global_Inbox . You want to do this before importing your old folders to avoid importing them into the wrong account
5. Import the mail folders from the old profile per http://kb.mozillazine.org/Importing_folders .
6. Backup your new profile.
7. Don't delete the old profile for at least a week, to play it safe. When you do, delete the old profile using the profile manager first (that updates profiles.ini), and only then delete the actual profile using Windows Explorer. Otherwise Thunderbird won't start.
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I've created a new profile with no problems.

Using MozBackUp I have been able to import my entire Address Book including all directories and all address, all 1,300 of them, with no problem.

My problem is with the messages. I have tried it with MozBackUp with which I am familiar and, each time, I end up with all of the messages but, for some reason, the old profile, or Prefs.js is being used as the old account names appear. As a result, I am unable to download messages in the Bob's eMail account. I am selecting nothing but "eMails" from the check boxes in all of my attempts. MozBackUp has an option to include, what they call, UNKNOWN FILES. I have tried going through the many files and deselecting, therefore, not restoring any file, remotely associated with PREFS. I've also tried deselecting all check boxes under UNKNOWN FILES. Same result. The old accounts are displayed; i.e., Bob's eMail and Bestimag@Montana.com, that being the renamed Local Folders account which is the only from which I can download messages.

Soooooo . . . I tried to use the ImportExportTools addon that you suggested and I can't seem to make it work. Selecting the correct file seems to the sticking point. I can't find the correct file in the "Select the messages to import" Explorer window. Selecting the Profile directory, Mail directory, or individual files doesn't seem to work. Needless to say, I am obviously doing something wrong.

I'm done messing with this today, (it's now after 7:00 PM MDT and I've been sitting at desk since 5:30 AM), as my brain has turned to mush, working with problem along with my client work. Fortunately, I am able to access my eMail messages but it is frustrating to say the least to be so close but yet so far. I liken the entire process to slogging through knee-deep mud. Grrrrr . . .

Sorry for venting, you've been incredible helping me through this. Please don't abandon me yet!!!

Thanks ever-so-much, Tanstaafl!

Montana Bob
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