Send email after a delay

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Re: Send email after a delay

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Thanks,

I just tried to send an email. In the dialog box of Send-Later, I clicked the 15min button.
Now, I see NOTHING in my Outbox and NOTHING in my Sent folder.
Was the email sent? Is the addon bullsht that doesn't work?

I need a ROBUST solution to send emails after 15min. It is EXTREMELY important that the emails are eventually sent.
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Re: Send email after a delay

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If its extremely important that the messages get sent don't set the send in background settings in the config editor.

My impression is that setting an explicit delay with the Send Later add-on works reliably. I have little experience using the 15 minute delay button (just tried it once, it worked). I suggest you try again after disabling some other add-ons (in case one of them interferes with that add-on) and if the problem still occurs, see if the troubleshooting advice at https://blog.kamens.us/send-later/ helps. If not, I suggest you browse the support forum at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum ... ater-users and/or contact the author of the add-on.

The ReminderFox add-on (a lighter weight alternative to the Lightning calendar add-on) lets you customize the toolbar with a Send++ button that sets a alarm reminding you to send that message 15 minutes later (that is the default delay, you can customize it). That would work well with the built-in send later feature. I don't know if Lightning offers a similar button.

While I would be concerned about the future of BlunderDelay add-on it seems to work fine, and its pretty reliable because of its simplicity.

The quote and compose manager add-on at https://freeshell.de/~kaosmos/quoteandc ... er-en.html had an option to "Pause before sending messages (in seconds). Its in the Compose Window tab in the add-ons options. During the countdown you can stop sending without losing anything." I assume that option is still there, I haven't checked that for a few years.
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Re: Send email after a delay

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BlunderDelay flushes the Outbox at regular intervals, which is great. But how do I send the messages to the Outbox in the first place?

I searched the Quote and Compose manager webpage and it doesn't mention any 'pause'.
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Re: Send email after a delay

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"But how do I send the messages to the Outbox in the first place?"

Use the built-in Send Later functionality (file -> send later or Ctrl+Shift+Return) that I described in my first post.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunde ... on/?src=ss lets you customize the toolbar to add a send later button.

"I searched the Quote and Compose manager webpage and it doesn't mention any 'pause'"

It never did. I installed the add-on and that feature is still in (from the compose window, not the main window) tools -> quoteandcomposemanager -> options -> compose. Next time please install the add-on and try to find the setting before complaining about it not being documented.
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Re: Send email after a delay

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OK.
But, if I put the emails to the outbox and flush the outbox every x minutes, it may happen that the email is sent in the next minute!
Also, if I close TB or laptop, the emails will never be sent!

As for the QuoteComposeManager, how does it work really? where does it store temporarily the email before it sends it? What will happen if TB crashes?
UPDATE: I don't think it's useful, it can only pause the email for 99 seconds max! I need 15min
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Re: Send email after a delay

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"Also, if I close TB or laptop, the emails will never be sent!"

Why do you believe that? They're queued in the outbox folder. The last time I restarted with some in that folder (not using the send later add-on, using the built-in feature) I got a prompt asking me if I wanted to send the unsent messages. Worst case when you restart you can use "file -> send unsent messages".
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Re: Send email after a delay

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Did you decide to stick with BlunderDelay (until the next major version of Thunderbird), or are you still having problems with the Send Later add-on?
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Re: Send email after a delay

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At the moment I am not sure what to do. I don't trust Send Later as it failed to send an email.
I may give BlunderDelay a try but it's not ideal because it may flush the Outbox the very next minute I compose an email.
What can I expect in the next TB version?

Also, is it possible to have a Send Later button for the built-in send later function? I cannot find anything.
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Re: Send email after a delay

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What can I expect in the next TB version?
As far as a sending delay is concerned, exactly what is in the current version.
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Re: Send email after a delay

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firefoxuse wrote:I don't trust Send Later as it failed to send an email.
More details please. For example, did it queue the message in the outbox? If it queued the message were you able to send it via file -> send unsent messages?

You might also experiment to see if it misses the 15 minute delay does that message get sent when the next message gets sent . i.e. is it never sent or does it occasionally just get delayed until another queued message is sent.

Is there anything unusual about your Local Folders account? For example, is it hidden (edited prefs.js or used https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunde ... rs/?src=ss) or did you add additional Local Folder account using an addon such as https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunde ... er/?src=ss?

Why is it unacceptable for a queued message once in a great while to be sent before 15 minutes? My impression is that some people like to add a short delay in case they change their mind (realized you made a mistake in the contents, or might need time to cool down if you wrote something you now regret because you were angry), but they usually never take advantage of that delay. I'm not asking just to be nosy, I'm hoping that understanding why might let me think of another solution.

There are some free services such as http://www.hitmelater.com , http://www.lettermelater.com , https://www.timecave.com/timecave/ and http://laytr.com (free version adds ads, paid version doesn't) that you might consider if Thunderbird doesn't meet your needs.
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Re: Send email after a delay

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No, it didn't queue it. The email to be sent, just disappeared.

I will use the BlunderDelay, but is it possible to have a Send Later button for the built-in send later function?
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Re: Send email after a delay

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One of my earlier posts had a link for a add-on that provides a send later button. However, you have to customize the toolbar to add it.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunde ... on/?src=ss
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Re: Send email after a delay

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yeah I will use that thanks
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