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Claud43
 
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Post Posted October 10th, 2018, 12:43 pm

Hi, I don't know if this is a bug in TB 60.2.1 or not. I have disable message pane, but it will pop up for a second when I open Thunderbird. Is there a fixs for this?

Thank you,
Claudia

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Post Posted October 10th, 2018, 3:43 pm

Try setting the mailnews.account_central_page.url preference to (1) instead of (2).

1. about:blank
2. chrome://messenger/content/msgAccountCentral.xul (default)

Start Page for mail
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Start_Page_for_mail

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Post Posted October 11th, 2018, 10:00 am

Sorry if I'm being stupid here. I can't find the setting for the mailnews.account_central_page.url preference to (1) instead of (2). All I see is mailnews.account_central_page.url chrome://messenger/content/msgAccountCentral.xul (default). Should I delete chrome://messenger/content/msgAccountCentral.xul (default) and put 1 instead?

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Post Posted October 11th, 2018, 2:28 pm

Open the Config Editor window.

Tools > Options > Advanced > General > Config Editor

Search for the mailnews.account_central_page.url preference using the search bar.

Modify the mailnews.account_central_page.url preference using the context menu.

Enter about:blank for the string value.

Restart application.

Config Editor
http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config

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Post Posted October 12th, 2018, 12:51 am

What you describe is reported in bugzilla and there no plans to fix it. As implied, what is briefly shown is account central" page. AFAIK changing start page won't help.

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Post Posted October 12th, 2018, 1:15 am

I added a short paragraph (with links to several bug reports) about that in http://kb.mozillazine.org/Start_Page_fo ... ge_display

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Post Posted October 12th, 2018, 7:09 am

Here is another way to disable the account central page.

Code: Select all
/* Thunderbird userChrome.css */

@namespace url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul");

@-moz-document url-prefix("chrome://messenger/content/msgAccountCentral.xul") {
  page {
    display: none !important;
  }
}

http://kb.mozillazine.org/UserChrome.css

Knowledge base editor wrote:If the start page is disabled you may see the account central page flash on the screen, before the folder listing of the default inbox is displayed.

I see the account central page flash on the screen with the start page enabled or disabled.

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Post Posted October 12th, 2018, 2:27 pm

Thank you for all your help. I guess I have to live with it. I am very disappoint in Thunderbird, when they updated to 60. They don't care about how it use to work for people, and that is a shame.

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Post Posted November 5th, 2019, 11:45 am

This bug is driving me crazy. I have two profiles on the same Windows 10 desktop computer --- they both have the same Add-ons, same plugins, and same e-mail accounts. One profile is used only for business, the other for personal correspondence (strange, I know).

When I open TB with Profile 1 - I start to get the folder tree and Lightning, tool bars, etc. --- but then Account_Central pops up momentarily.

When I open TB with Profile 2 - I get the folder tree and Lightning (same calendar), tool bars, etc. ---- and no Account_Central.

I keep thinking, well this has got to be a difference in the Profile settings and not necessarily a TB bug ---- but I have done a compare with NotePad++ on the prefs.js files and can't find the offending discrepancy.

I did finally set the mailnews.account_central_page.url preference to "about:blank" on Profile 1 and no longer get the Account_Central popup -----but......why did I have to make this config edit? And why not on both profiles? What am I missing that required the change?

I guess what concerns me is how long will this "fix" continue to work and why has this bug been ignored with "we aren't going to fix it" attitude? (Sorry, that was just a vent on how long this has gone on and having to rely on either About:Config edits or user Chrome files.

Thanks

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Post Posted November 5th, 2019, 12:13 pm

Thunderbird is a terrible email program now! It use to be great! A lot of the plugins won't work, I have stop using Thunderbird and went to Outlook.

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Post Posted November 5th, 2019, 12:46 pm

Claud43:

You don't have to update to the latest version. See http://kb.mozillazine.org/Go_back_to_an ... hunderbird if you'd like to go back to an older version for a while waiting for more add-ons to be ported from version 60 to 68. Its can be a lot of work as they typically need to be rewritten as WebExtension add-ons, rather than just modified to deal with some minor changes. The Thunderbird council did a poor job of managing the conversion from legacy add-ons to WebExtensions.

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Post Posted November 5th, 2019, 12:50 pm

Roxie2401:

"I guess what concerns me is how long will this "fix" continue to work and why has this bug been ignored with "we aren't going to fix it" attitude?"

Did you ever formally report it as a bug using https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/home ? QA resources are scarce and it sounds like the bug might be configuration specific.

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Post Posted November 5th, 2019, 1:31 pm

tanstaafl wrote:Claud43:

You don't have to update to the latest version. See http://kb.mozillazine.org/Go_back_to_an ... hunderbird if you'd like to go back to an older version for a while waiting for more add-ons to be ported from version 60 to 68. Its can be a lot of work as they typically need to be rewritten as WebExtension add-ons, rather than just modified to deal with some minor changes. The Thunderbird council did a poor job of managing the conversion from legacy add-ons to WebExtensions.


The ONLY way I will ever come back to Thunderbird, is if they put in auto correction in and when you open Thunderbird it's always open to the inbox folder without getting addons. And I know that won't happen.

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Post Posted November 5th, 2019, 3:21 pm

Sounds like you want the built-in spell checker to have an auto-correction feature (not just automated spell checking) like https://www.officetooltips.com/outlook_ ... rrect.html . It might happen when they eventually replace the built-in editor, but that's probably many years away. Look how long they took to get rid of the Mork format or to add working maildir support.

They experimented in 2011 with a replacement using a "Compose for Thunderbird" experimental add-on, that if successful, would have been merged into Thunderbird. It used the CKEditor Smart WYSIWYG editor component which has some auto-correct features, but found it too hard to integrate. https://ckeditor.com/cke4/addon/autocorrect

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Post Posted November 5th, 2019, 3:30 pm

If a user wants the fix for Account Central appearing when starting Thunderbird before the Thread and Message panes appear, they should update to at least Thunderbird 68.1.1.

fixed | Account Central pane always loaded at start-up


REF: Thunderbird 68.1.1 Release Notes

It looks like the developers had a change of heart.
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