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Post Posted March 5th, 2014, 7:02 am

I have been using SeaMonkey, aka Mozilla Suite, aka Netscape Communicator for some time. Thanks to portable apps, I have switched over my various browsers to portable apps, so I can take them with me on a USB stick to all my job sites. One complaint is Flash. When I use Chrome Portable, it automatically updates flash, but with Gecko, you have to copy and paste the NPSWF32.dll into the plugins sub-folder manually. Any chance of SeaMonkey emulating this behavior?

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Post Posted March 5th, 2014, 2:17 pm

Not much of a chance. Chrome has a version of Flash built in so the portable version benefits from that feature. SeaMonkey and Firefox make use of the Flash plug-in provided by Adobe, making it necessary to install that plug-in to have access to Flash.

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Post Posted March 5th, 2014, 4:50 pm

On the plus-side you should still be able to view video on sites that support HTML5 as long as they are distributing WebM or Ogg/Theora. I don't know much about using Portable, but it seems like you should be able to create a cookie that spoofs the YouTube HTML5 trial cookie.
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Post Posted March 6th, 2014, 11:23 am

patrickjdempsey wrote:On the plus-side you should still be able to view video on sites that support HTML5 as long as they are distributing WebM or Ogg/Theora. I don't know much about using Portable, but it seems like you should be able to create a cookie that spoofs the YouTube HTML5 trial cookie.


Thanks, I would have more enthusiasm for HTML5 if it was in wider use. With all the changes that Mozilla has pushed through for Firefox and later, some for SeaMonkey, I would have thought that a built-in Flash was a no-brainer.

I no longer use any browser that is not portable.

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Post Posted March 6th, 2014, 9:21 pm

James wrote:Mozilla has been working on Shumway.
http://mozilla.github.io/shumway/
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Shumway


Thanks James, however the extension can not be installed with Seamonkey as it is not compatible, or so it says.

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Post Posted March 6th, 2014, 9:27 pm

James wrote:Mozilla has been working on Shumway.
http://mozilla.github.io/shumway/
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Shumway


James,

Pretty looking extension, a bit geekie at the moment, but I will install it in Fx and see how it goes. The thing is I don't take Fx with me on my USB stick. I take SM instead for all the old reasons: composer, Lightning, email... It is a pretty complete package once again, particularly as LightBird makes Lightning work better. And, of course, Early Blue.

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Post Posted March 6th, 2014, 11:24 pm

a bit geekie at the moment


What the hell does this mean?
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Post Posted March 7th, 2014, 7:29 am

LoudNoise wrote:
a bit geekie at the moment


What the hell does this mean?


What the hell do you think it means? :)
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Post Posted March 7th, 2014, 8:11 am

Shumway installs in SeaMonkey by modifying (adding a SeaMonkey section to) install.rdf.

Though it looks like it deals with .swf rather then "Flash" video (like at Youtube)?
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Post Posted March 7th, 2014, 8:14 am

All in all, can't say I can see what the big deal is in copying a NPSWF32*.dll file into a /plugins/ directory once a month or so.

(And myself, I'd much rather do that, manually, then have it update on its own.)
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Post Posted March 7th, 2014, 1:56 pm

Shumway doesn't appear to be a full replacement for Flash yet (if ever)... I think it's part of a project to try to decode Flash, and a fully-featured Flash decoder may be years in the making. And judging by the severe font issues that PDF.js suffers from (which Mozilla is apparently content to ignore), I think it will be a very long time before there will be a really truly functional Flash replacement.
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Post Posted March 7th, 2014, 9:40 pm

therube wrote:Shumway installs in SeaMonkey by modifying (adding a SeaMonkey section to) install.rdf.

Though it looks like it deals with .swf rather then "Flash" video (like at Youtube)?


It said it wouldn't install in my portable SM. Did you manually modify install.rdf?

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Post Posted March 7th, 2014, 9:41 pm

patrickjdempsey wrote:Shumway doesn't appear to be a full replacement for Flash yet (if ever)... I think it's part of a project to try to decode Flash, and a fully-featured Flash decoder may be years in the making. And judging by the severe font issues that PDF.js suffers from (which Mozilla is apparently content to ignore), I think it will be a very long time before there will be a really truly functional Flash replacement.


Patrick,

Thanks, that was my feeling too. I don't suppose there is any sentiment in Mozilla to do the builtin flash like Chrome. (just saying)
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Post Posted March 8th, 2014, 11:12 am

ndebord wrote:I don't suppose there is any sentiment in Mozilla to do the builtin flash like Chrome. (just saying)


Mozilla distributes Firefox under the Mozilla Public License which requires that all of the components of Firefox are Free and Open and their source code is freely available. This is also at least partially why Firefox doesn't ship with a built-in h.264 video decoder. Chrome isn't really "open source" and Google obviously doesn't have any qualms with shipping proprietary software bundled into it.
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