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Post Posted June 28th, 2019, 6:02 pm

Switched from FF 52.9ESR, installed Waterfox64 56.2.11 a few days ago with all my legacy add-ons and theme, and I'm happy as a worm in mud. :mrgreen: It's a 99% copy of FF without the spyware. So far the security fixes are just a little behind Mozilla. If it doesn't pan out, I have several other alternatives, like SeaMonkey or Vivaldi.
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Post Posted June 29th, 2019, 6:58 am

LoveMyFoxy wrote:.... If it doesn't pan out, I have several other alternatives, like SeaMonkey or Vivaldi.

    :-k I think, you can add Basilisk to that list.









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Post Posted June 29th, 2019, 8:08 am

I hadn't heard of Waterfox until 2 techies who I trust on virtualdr.com recommended. it. But there are just 2 developers behind it, so I wish them good health.

I see you're a fan of the old logos. I don't know if the 2 links at the bottom are still good.:
https://get.google.com/albumarchive/104 ... qPS-eLviQE
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Post Posted June 30th, 2019, 6:48 am

LoveMyFoxy wrote:.... I see you're a fan of the old logos. I don't know if the 2 links at the bottom are still good.:
https://get.google.com/albumarchive/104 ... qPS-eLviQE

    :-k The problem with that page is that there are many logos missing.

    In any case, in this link is almost complete all the old collection of logos. Image









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Post Posted June 30th, 2019, 10:10 am

I had compiled the one on Picasa (now called GooglePhotos) myself, not knowing there was a collection in the Wayback Machine. Impressive.

Is SeaMonkey keeping up with security updates?

Back on topic: FYI Waterfox
Most browser functions behave exactly as in Firefox Gecko, but there's also a Reddit forum for Waterfox which is very active. I don't know yet how expert the users are, compared to Mozillazine.
https://www.reddit.com/r/waterfox
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Post Posted June 30th, 2019, 9:01 pm

testing my new useragent
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Post Posted July 1st, 2019, 4:07 am

LoveMyFoxy wrote:.... Is SeaMonkey keeping up with security updates?

    :-k If you use WG9's unofficial versions (SeaMonkey 2.49.5 or SeaMonkey 2.53), they do have all the latest security patches.

    The latest official version (SeaMonkey 2.49.4), is NOT updated. #-o
    However, in the near future, we will have the official version of SeaMnkey 2.49.5 ready. Image











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Post Posted July 1st, 2019, 8:54 am

I need something more consistent than WGA. Most of his time is spent with sports and making beer, and he appears to be the only person doing that version.

Why isn't the official one up-to-date? Surely you have more than one lone developer behind it.
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Post Posted July 1st, 2019, 11:32 am

LoveMyFoxy wrote:I need something more consistent than WGA. Most of his time is spent with sports and making beer, and he appears to be the only person doing that version.

Why isn't the official one up-to-date? Surely you have more than one lone developer behind it.

    [-(
    Anyway, if you don't have any idea what you're talking about, the best thing you can do is keep your mouth shut. Image

    WG9's unofficial builds is NOT just their own work. They also have behind them the stability and frg's security patches (SeaMonkey Lead Developer)
    and other people from the SeaMonkey Council.


    And as a fundamental rule. I don't want to talk to people, who don't have the slightest respect, for other people they don't even know.

    On the other hand, this is my last message in this thread. :evil:







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Post Posted July 10th, 2019, 8:13 pm

Some talk of Waterfox here, https://forums.informaction.com/viewtop ... 19&t=25609.


I'm not sure that SeaMonkey 2.53 is fully up to date on security fixes, probably actually a bit behind 2.49.5, as it is currently.
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Post Posted July 10th, 2019, 10:34 pm

Not too worried about WF. That's what HD images are for. I ran XP for 4 years after the updates stopped, still have that machine for emergencies.
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Post Posted August 2nd, 2019, 2:46 pm

Just saw this thread today so a late reply.

> I'm not sure that SeaMonkey 2.53 is fully up to date on security fixes, probably actually a bit behind 2.49.5, as it is currently.

2.53 is way ahead of sec fixes compared to 2.49.5. It is at around 60.4. It is only at 60.4 because I imported the whole esr60 patch queue into it and going thru it takes time. There are way more sec, crash and stability fixes in it than published on the Mozilla site. Check the patch queue on Bills site and will notice it. Not all are backports for new features.
We try to fix bugs with public recognition fast so there is a bunch of fixes up to Fx 69 in too.
CVE-2019-11707 is fixed in both 2.53 and 2.49.5. CVE-2019-11708 is e10s only. No multiprocess no fix. While this is in theory a bad thing I don't care much. If something is able to compromise the content process you have other problems than worrying about the chrome process.

In any case uBlock and NoScript are your first line of defense.

> Why isn't the official one up-to-date? Surely you have more than one lone developer behind it.

There are basically 4 behind it. It is not up to date because the whole infrastructure needs to be redone. Unlike the 1500 moz employees we all have a paid job and a life :)
Don't like it that it is slow going but it is as it is. And if you think other products are safe just look at the ever growing depedency of Firefox on third party products and think again ... If you don't use the latest Nightly you are always using an unsafe application.

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Post Posted August 2nd, 2019, 8:42 pm

I suggest you should move this to your own thread, where it's more likely to be seen by SeaMonkey users.
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