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DarkOne123
 
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November 4th, 2009, 5:13 am

Post Posted November 4th, 2009, 5:13 am

studio17: The only one I really want is the open new tab in my homepage. The rest are trivial. I did find https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/777 which is very small and opens new tabs in my homepage.
3. New tab, or link opening on the right side of the tabs as well. (I think I will get used to how it does it now as well). I just realised I had "Open tabs to the right of current tab" enabled, when I disabled it, it did what I wanted.

Thank you for this extension, it does nearly all the things TMP did for me except 1, which I found another small extension to do.

Serenus
 
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November 4th, 2009, 8:19 am

Post Posted November 4th, 2009, 8:19 am

Bug report, if you open multiple pages using the "Open All in Tabs" feature of bookmarked pages it doesn't load them all in new tabs, it reuses the tab currently selected for the first bookmark and the subsequent ones open new tabs, proper behavior should be open all bookmarks in new tabs since I checked such option in Tabberwocky options.

Suggestion 1: Make it so it's possible to move then new tab button to the left side, I know quite a few people that are used to that TMP feature.

Suggestion 2: Make possible to hide the "List all tabs" button.

Suggestion 3: Using Multi-Rows is quite glitchly, reordering tabs doesn't work, there's an "ugly" scroll bar to scroll through the rows, overall a poor experience compared to using this addon without multi-row enabled.

All in all, outstanding addon, I like how it's focused on a few core tweaks instead of embracing the world as TMP. Good job :)

studio17
 
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November 4th, 2009, 9:05 am

Post Posted November 4th, 2009, 9:05 am

sridhar wrote:Another question regarding TabberWocky: Is it possible to have Ctrl+Tab switch to last active tabs as opposed to always switching to the right tab?
Starting with Firefox 3.6 (which will be released in a couple months; Firefox 3.6 beta 1 is already released), Firefox will do this automatically! (That is why I am not adding it to Tabberwocky.)

aronin wrote:Also, another request is to change the 'label highlight' when a Tab is protected. The circle around the label is very distracting and am sure can be improved - maybe some kind of icon.
Yes, I agree. :P Hmm, how about adding a character before the tab label? I think that is do-able with one line of code. So "mozillazine forums" would become:
*mozillazine forums
* mozillazine forums
@ mozillazine forums
! mozillazine forums
~ mozillazine forums
^ mozillazine forums
which one or maybe something else? i'm reluctant to use an icon (i am no icon designer) unless you create an awesome icon, in which case, i will! :D
aronin wrote:A bug in 'Pin Tabs'... didn't know where to file it so putting it here:
- When you have pinned a few tabs, after sometime the 'Close Buttons' are not visible on the background tabs anymore. Could you kindly resolve this.
I tried but failed to reproduce this bug. It works fine for me. :-k
By the way, please use the newly created Pin Tab thread for any Pin Tab related feedback 8-) (Pin Tab may or may not be integrated into Tabberwocky, depending on a number of factors. :P)
aronin wrote:Thanks again for these small & awesome extensions.
You're welcome! :)

Serenus wrote:Bug report, if you open multiple pages using the "Open All in Tabs" feature of bookmarked pages it doesn't load them all in new tabs, it reuses the tab currently selected for the first bookmark and the subsequent ones open new tabs, proper behavior should be open all bookmarks in new tabs since I checked such option in Tabberwocky options.
Yep, I'm aware of that bug :( I'll look into it when I have time. (Note that it takes a lot less time to write these replies than to fix the bugs :P)
Serenus wrote:Suggestion 1: Make it so it's possible to move then new tab button to the left side, I know quite a few people that are used to that TMP feature.
Hmm, possibly. Let me know if adding this to userChrome.css works. (I just use ctrl+t instead of the new tab button.)
Serenus wrote:Suggestion 2: Make possible to hide the "List all tabs" button.
This has already been suggested. (See previous posts.)
Serenus wrote:Suggestion 3: Using Multi-Rows is quite glitchly, reordering tabs doesn't work, there's an "ugly" scroll bar to scroll through the rows, overall a poor experience compared to using this addon without multi-row enabled.
Word. Firefox wasn't made to have multiple-row tab bars. Out of necessity, the implementation became a bunch of hacks, and I have no idea how to make it much cleaner and smoother without making my own browser or another TMP (from what I've seen of TMP's code, it pretty much overrides almost all of Firefox's built-in tabbed browsing code in order to do what it does). It's actually not glitchy at all for me (as of version 0.9.9). It does run a bit slower than the default horizontal scrollbar mode though, due to all the event listeners required to keep the tabs from going wild. Reordering tabs does work, but the tab drop indicator is hidden (see previous posts for reasons). Implementing a prettier scrollbar would take a lot of extra code and make it slower. (I don't use the multiple-row mode myself.)
Serenus wrote:All in all, outstanding addon, I like how it's focused on a few core tweaks instead of embracing the world as TMP. Good job :)
Thanks for the feedback! :)

Serenus
 
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November 4th, 2009, 11:08 am

Post Posted November 4th, 2009, 11:08 am

studio17 wrote:
Serenus wrote:Suggestion 1: Make it so it's possible to move then new tab button to the left side, I know quite a few people that are used to that TMP feature.
Hmm, possibly. Let me know if adding this to userChrome.css works. (I just use ctrl+t instead of the new tab button.)

It worked.

twnty3svn
 
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November 4th, 2009, 8:01 pm

Post Posted November 4th, 2009, 8:01 pm

Awesome extension. As like many others I'm TMP ex-user.

The only feature that I think is missing is a 'Tab Focus'. Basically it would be to be able to click on my current tab, and it would bring me back to the previous tab, and vice-versa. Similar to your "Switch to last selected tab or tab on the left when closing a tab", but instead of closing, it would be upon clicking current tab.

Otherwise great.

studio17
 
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November 4th, 2009, 8:48 pm

Post Posted November 4th, 2009, 8:48 pm

Serenus wrote:It worked.

Great! No need to include it in Tabberwocky then :P
(userChrome.css changes run faster and are much slimmer than implementing the same change in an extension, but of course, there are many, many things that cannot be done with userChrome.css)
Thanks for using Tabberwocky, Serenus!
twnty3svn wrote:Awesome extension. As like many others I'm TMP ex-user.

The only feature that I think is missing is a 'Tab Focus'. Basically it would be to be able to click on my current tab, and it would bring me back to the previous tab, and vice-versa. Similar to your "Switch to last selected tab or tab on the left when closing a tab", but instead of closing, it would be upon clicking current tab.

I will not be implementing this feature in Tabberwocky, however, you will be able to do this by pressing ctrl+tab in Firefox 3.6! Try Firefox 3.6 beta 1 (available now) if you want that feature. Thanks for using Tabberwocky, twnty3svn!

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November 4th, 2009, 10:23 pm

Post Posted November 4th, 2009, 10:23 pm

Seems to work really well with the latest 3.7a1pre builds! :) How can I change the new tab color to something that isn't red? :)
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yugushen
 
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November 4th, 2009, 11:40 pm

Post Posted November 4th, 2009, 11:40 pm

Great extension. I have a little suggestion.

For the Open-tabs-to-the-right-of-current-tab feature, can I have some exceptions that don't have to follow this rule, like a new blank tab, or a new tab from bookmarks or search bar? Usually these tabs are not relevant to current tab, so I think it's better to open them in the rightmost of tabbar.

aronin
 
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November 5th, 2009, 1:52 am

Post Posted November 5th, 2009, 1:52 am

So here's the request/challenge continued from the 'Pin Tab' thread:

I love the 'Super DragNDrop' feature (dragging a link on page to open it in background tab & dragging a chunk of text to conduct search in a new background tab)... I use this script (http://tinyurl.com/yho6apy) with userchrome.js extension to get this feature. It has also been implemented in this addon: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6912 which is also small but not 'as small'... its 12 kb or so...

So, Can this feature be implemented with Tabberwocky i.e. if its implementation is contained to be within 4-5 kb. The reason I think this feature is related with Tabberwocky is because this has also to do with opening links/conducting search from a page in background tabs, so very much a 'Tab' feature. The only option to be added to the Tabberwocky options would be:
[x] Enable Super Drag n Drop

Serenus
 
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November 5th, 2009, 8:05 am

Post Posted November 5th, 2009, 8:05 am

studio17 wrote:
Serenus wrote:It worked.

Great! No need to include it in Tabberwocky then :P
(userChrome.css changes run faster and are much slimmer than implementing the same change in an extension, but of course, there are many, many things that cannot be done with userChrome.css)
Thanks for using Tabberwocky, Serenus!

I think you're missing a simple point, most end-users don't know how/why/where to edit the userChrome.css file or what to add to it, to reach the expected results, I think you would be aiming for a much larger population if you added those simple things to an UI interface of your addon. Just an opinion. :)

TucknDar
 
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November 5th, 2009, 11:57 am

Post Posted November 5th, 2009, 11:57 am

Great add-on! It replaces almost everything that's useful in TMP, for me. I also appreciate the tip about using userChrome.css to change the appearance of unread tabs (I "hacked" the tabber.css within the extension archive first...)

I'm not commenting here just for the praise though ;) I also have a request, or maybe I just need some pointers... With TMP I could have external applications open a link in the current tab, but I can't seem to do this with Tabberwocky or through any settings in the regular Firefox options. I realize this can be annoying to some, but I use an external bookmark program (Linkman Lite) that I think should launch bookmarks in currently open tab.

So the request is to have the option of letting external applications open link in current tab.

Thanks for a great (yet tiny!) add-on!

(and let me just add that I'd also like to see PinTab merged into Tabberwocky ;) )

studio17
 
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November 6th, 2009, 4:13 am

Post Posted November 6th, 2009, 4:13 am

geeknik wrote:Seems to work really well with the latest 3.7a1pre builds! :) How can I change the new tab color to something that isn't red? :)

Code: Select all
tabbrowser[tabberwocky-highlightunread="true"] tab:not([lastselected]) {
   color: yourcolor !important;
}
Glad to know that it works well on the trunk builds and thanks for using Tabberwocky!

yugushen wrote:Great extension. I have a little suggestion.

For the Open-tabs-to-the-right-of-current-tab feature, can I have some exceptions that don't have to follow this rule, like a new blank tab, or a new tab from bookmarks or search bar? Usually these tabs are not relevant to current tab, so I think it's better to open them in the rightmost of tabbar.

This option is available in Tabberwocky if you are using Firefox 3.6 beta 1 or higher. They are too difficult to implement in Firefox 3.5. Please upgrade if you really need this feature. Thanks for using Tabberwocky!

aronin wrote:So here's the request/challenge continued from the 'Pin Tab' thread:
I love the 'Super DragNDrop' feature (dragging a link on page to open it in background tab & dragging a chunk of text to conduct search in a new background tab)... I use this script (http://tinyurl.com/yho6apy) with userchrome.js extension to get this feature. It has also been implemented in this addon: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6912 which is also small but not 'as small'... its 12 kb or so...
So, Can this feature be implemented with Tabberwocky i.e. if its implementation is contained to be within 4-5 kb. The reason I think this feature is related with Tabberwocky is because this has also to do with opening links/conducting search from a page in background tabs, so very much a 'Tab' feature. The only option to be added to the Tabberwocky options would be:
[x] Enable Super Drag n Drop

I appreciate your enthusiasm, but I do not accept challenges. You can code this if you would like. Also, more importantly, file size is a very poor indication of speed. Computational complexity theory explains that it is all about the algorithm.

Serenus wrote:I think you're missing a simple point, most end-users don't know how/why/where to edit the userChrome.css file or what to add to it, to reach the expected results, I think you would be aiming for a much larger population if you added those simple things to an UI interface of your addon. Just an opinion. :)

This is true. However, one might also argue that most end-users don't need their new tab button on the left. ;)

TucknDar wrote:Great add-on! It replaces almost everything that's useful in TMP, for me. I also appreciate the tip about using userChrome.css to change the appearance of unread tabs (I "hacked" the tabber.css within the extension archive first...)

I'm not commenting here just for the praise though ;) I also have a request, or maybe I just need some pointers... With TMP I could have external applications open a link in the current tab, but I can't seem to do this with Tabberwocky or through any settings in the regular Firefox options. I realize this can be annoying to some, but I use an external bookmark program (Linkman Lite) that I think should launch bookmarks in currently open tab.

So the request is to have the option of letting external applications open link in current tab.

Thanks for a great (yet tiny!) add-on!

(and let me just add that I'd also like to see PinTab merged into Tabberwocky ;) )

I may add this in the future, but honestly, it's not likely. If you're good at writing hacks like the one above, perhaps, you could look into how TMP does it and write a small userChrome.js hack to do the same thing.
Pin Tab will be merged into Tabberwocky, once it's localized and fully compatible with Private Browsing and the 'Open tabs to the right of the current tab' option of Tabberwocky.
Thanks for using Tabberwocky!

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November 6th, 2009, 8:40 am

Post Posted November 6th, 2009, 8:40 am

studio17 wrote:I appreciate your enthusiasm, but I do not accept challenges. You can code this if you would like. Also, more importantly, file size is a very poor indication of speed. Computational complexity theory explains that it is all about the algorithm.


Hey sorry if I didn't put it correctly... didn't mean it as a challenge in the literal sense of the word; It was primarily just a request. And I don't know coding ...so... :)

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November 6th, 2009, 10:56 am

Post Posted November 6th, 2009, 10:56 am

"Open tabs to the right" does not work well since 0.9.9...

I know there have been some change in Forefox core for tabs opening, but it lloks like your extension does not respect "browser.tabs.insertRelatedAfterCurrent" value.
UA= my version.

Thanks for this extension.

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November 6th, 2009, 4:04 pm

Post Posted November 6th, 2009, 4:04 pm

Nice extension!! Like TMP but lighter
2 things I noticed
1) The highlight of unread tabs didnt work with the themes from http://takebacktheweb.org/, is that just for me or are there compability problems?
2) Would it be possible to add so that the order of links opened in new tab are reversed? I liked that feature of TMP. So that if I have [1][2] and open three tabs from [1] I get [1]321[2] instead of [1]123[2]

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