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Post Posted November 17th, 2021, 9:36 am

Never had this issue before.

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Post Posted November 17th, 2021, 8:29 pm

Your description of the "issue" is not very descriptive. Bing.com is working very well for me in 2.53.10. Also I see that your user agent string contains "Firefox/68.0". Depending on what your issue actually is, you might wish to try a user agent string using "Firefox/60.0". See Frank Lion's "Posted November 16th, 2021, 11:40 am" post at " viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3071978&start=90 ", and some of the follow-up posts in that thread.

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Post Posted November 18th, 2021, 3:11 am

Moving this to SeaMonkey Support...
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Post Posted November 18th, 2021, 5:48 am

Unable to confirm in my Mint 20 test vm with official 2.53.10:

https://ibb.co/cNtMyQQ

If SeaMonkey just vanishes without a trace usually a problem with one of the system libraries, OOM or maybe media decoding. Start it from a terminal and see if some error shows up there when if goes away.

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Post Posted November 21st, 2021, 8:02 am

frg wrote:
NWKnight77 wrote:Never had this issue before.

Unable to confirm in my Mint 20 test vm with official 2.53.10:

https://ibb.co/cNtMyQQ

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    Using VoidLinux and/or SparkyLinux (debian testing - 'bookworm')



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Post Posted November 21st, 2021, 11:38 am

No problem with OpenSuse 15.3, Windows 8.1 or any other OS so far I tested. vm and non vm.

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Post Posted November 21st, 2021, 12:29 pm

frg wrote:No problem with OpenSuse 15.3, Windows 8.1 or any other OS so far I tested. vm and non vm.


Windows 7 64-bit (ESU), SeaMonkey 2.53.10 64-bit. Website "Bing.com" crashes SeaMonkey but there is no report because crash server doesn't work (so far).

It looks like Bing.com is loading new scripts all the time (takes 25% of CPU which is 100% for one core) until SM will crash.

It was tested on my "test" profile with general override for Fx78. Another test with site specific override for "bing.com" domain with Fx60 gives the same crash. But when I've set "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.53.10" (without Firefox advertising) then "Bing.com" works correct... or at least doesn't crash.

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Post Posted November 21st, 2021, 2:22 pm

Bing loads okay for me.

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Post Posted November 22nd, 2021, 5:57 am

Ok was able to reproduce it in a Windows 11 vm with a new profile. Crash is deep in modules loading code. dom.moduleScripts.enabled setting to false will mitigate it but not recommended. 2.57 is also affected and I didn't find any bug closed or open for it. Suspect will go away when supporting dynamic module imports but need to see if I/we can do something about it earlier. I use NoScript and ublock origin and can not reproduce the crash with them active som might be some third party tracking or ad code involved.

Btw. I am using startpage now mostly which comes with SeaMonkey. Not as flashy but does the job and the search results seem to be better than google bloated sponsored stuff lately.

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Post Posted November 23rd, 2021, 7:24 am

Same crash problem here (tested with new profile).

Goto bing.com, enter "covid-19", press return. SM v2.53.10 (Win 10 64x) crashes.

No crash only if JS is disabled.

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Post Posted November 26th, 2021, 2:16 am

Confirmed on Win 10 20H2 x64 with clean profile. Seems the offending script is blocked by ublock in my regular profile, so I don't see a crash there

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Post Posted November 26th, 2021, 3:53 pm

v_v wrote:Your description of the "issue" is not very descriptive. Bing.com is working very well for me in 2.53.10. Also I see that your user agent string contains "Firefox/68.0". Depending on what your issue actually is, you might wish to try a user agent string using "Firefox/60.0". See Frank Lion's "Posted November 16th, 2021, 11:40 am" post at " viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3071978&start=90 ", and some of the follow-up posts in that thread.

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-Px- wrote:Confirmed on Win 10 20H2 x64 with clean profile. Seems the offending script is blocked by ublock in my regular profile, so I don't see a crash there


Px,

Agree, Adblock Latitude (converted) fails to do anything and the site crashes. As you say, uBlock seems to block the bad script and so when I enable uBlock, I can go to bing covid-19 and no crash.

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Post Posted November 26th, 2021, 4:38 pm

Everyone should look at the date of the OP here - viewtopic.php?p=14909723#p14909723

Now look at the date of the opening post on this very thread and also here -
viewtopic.php?p=14909879#p14909879

Finally, look at the UA strings at the end of the posts of the people having problems on this thread.

Seems to me this problem is caused by showing (new to 2.53.10) Firefox 68 in the UA string.

Choices -
#1. Use an adblocker.
#2. Make a site specific override for bing.com
#3. Menu>Edit>Preferences>Advanced>HTTP Networking>select 'identify as SeaMonkey'
#4. Stop using 'bing', which is a really silly name anyway.
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Post Posted November 26th, 2021, 9:21 pm

Frank Lion wrote:Everyone should look at the date of the OP here - viewtopic.php?p=14909723#p14909723

Now look at the date of the opening post on this very thread and also here -
viewtopic.php?p=14909879#p14909879

Finally, look at the UA strings at the end of the posts of the people having problems on this thread.

Seems to me this problem is caused by showing (new to 2.53.10) Firefox 68 in the UA string.

Choices -
#1. Use an adblocker.
#2. Make a site specific override for bing.com
#3. Menu>Edit>Preferences>Advanced>HTTP Networking>select 'identify as SeaMonkey'
#4. Stop using 'bing', which is a really silly name anyway.


Frank,

Agree with everything here. Wonder only about identify pref. I have gone back and forth between Seamonkey only and Seamonkey with Firefox compatibility.

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Post Posted November 27th, 2021, 6:57 am

Nope. As I posted the crahs is in modules loading code and 2.57 also affected whichs till has the 60 ua. Can be mitigated by setting dom.moduleScripts.enabled to false but this will break other sites now working since 2.53.9

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