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bmfan77 · Post by **bmfan77** » November 19th, 2004, 8:02 pm

so how long are we suposed to wait for this statment ?

sergio eduardo · Post by **sergio eduardo** » November 19th, 2004, 8:44 pm

No idea but I am here...
sergio

Steffen · Post by **Steffen** » November 19th, 2004, 8:48 pm

This is not "the statement", but here's some preliminary information:
The logging is already gone. And we'll get rid of webtip.ch altogether soon.

esavior · Post by **esavior** » November 20th, 2004, 5:08 am

Steffen wrote:This is not "the statement", but here's some preliminary information:
The logging is already gone. And we'll get rid of webtip.ch altogether soon.

Thats good to hear. Atleast this whole mess is going to have a good ending. I bet it wont be till wendsday before we get a statement tho.

Umko · Post by **Umko** » November 20th, 2004, 5:12 am

esavior wrote:
Steffen wrote:This is not "the statement", but here's some preliminary information:
The logging is already gone. And we'll get rid of webtip.ch altogether soon.

Thats good to hear. Atleast this whole mess is going to have a good ending. I bet it wont be till wendsday before we get a statement tho.

that's certainly good news!

but i sure hope to get a statement on the whole policy of the mozilla foundation concerning the search bar contracts with commercial entities.

and this has nothing to do with firefox germany.

bcool · Post by **bcool** » November 20th, 2004, 5:38 am

Shadow3333 wrote:madness I say complete and utter madness.

So this is what mass hysteria feels like? Reminds me of the screaming crowds from one of our old 1950 SCIFI movies. I sure hope Mozilla clears up this stink right away.

sergio eduardo · Post by **sergio eduardo** » November 20th, 2004, 12:17 pm

It is not mass hysteria ( caused by fear , by the way ) . Overall reactions have been quite civilized in this forum but when talking about clearing things up I do certainly hope Mozilla cleans its own act as well as the present mess . I repeat , this is not a storm in a tea cup . It was a clear cut decision coming from the top management of Mozilla Foundation . I don't have a leg to stand on but please explain ...
yours sergio

KrisM2 · Post by **KrisM2** » November 20th, 2004, 2:26 pm

bcool wrote:So this is what mass hysteria feels like? Reminds me of the screaming crowds from one of our old 1950 SCIFI movies.

Exactly! Had to smile at that one, even though this whole thread is deadly serious...
Kristi

Umko · Post by **Umko** » November 20th, 2004, 4:36 pm

why istn't there a mozilla official that posts here and informs us when the official statement will come, so that we can look forward to it and be more at ease.

i think it's in everyone's interest.

Steffen · Post by **Steffen** » November 20th, 2004, 4:51 pm

Some of the guys involved are enjoying a Firefox 1.0 party right now

But I was told that the editorial deadline of the premier German IT mag c't is on Monday, so I'd expect the statement on Monday at the latest.

hotel porkpie · Post by **hotel porkpie** » November 20th, 2004, 6:48 pm

Outrageous hypocrisy by Mozilla. This amazes me. It's like one of those politicians preaching about family values one moment and caught down an alley with a slinky prozzer the next.

Delaying this notorious statement is another shoddy move. Hoping everyone will forget or just get bored? It won't happen.

Well, Firefox, your dirty little secret is out. What percentage of users will EVER trust these hypocrites again?

Great browser, but if you're going to pontificate as deafeningly and self-righteously and never-endingly as pure-pure-pure-as-the-driven-snow mozilla, my god you'd better practise what you preach. Great browser, but not so different after all.

Gingerbread_Man · Post by **Gingerbread_Man** » November 20th, 2004, 6:53 pm

hotel porkpie wrote:Well, Firefox, your dirty little secret is out. What percentage of users will EVER trust these hypocrites again?

Excuse me while I roll my eyes :roll:

I'd like to point out a few things:

- This only affects the German version of Firefox
- Firefox itself never spied on anyone
- The search plugin was allegedly supplied by eBay.de
- The site doing the datamining is an eBay.de partner
- A member of the German Moz team has already posted here admitting this was a mistake

hotel porkpie · Post by **hotel porkpie** » November 20th, 2004, 7:06 pm

Excuse me while I roll my eyes Rolling Eyes I'd like to point out a few things:

- This only affects the German version of Firefox
- Firefox itself never spied on anyone
- The search plugin was allegedly supplied by eBay.de
- The site doing the datamining is an eBay.de partner
- A member of the German Moz team has already posted here admitting this was a mistake

Sounds familiar. Just the usual politician patter.

But the fact is, a version of firefox, which brags until the cows come home about being free of spyware, shipped with spyware. Split any hairs you like trying to defend it, but this is pure, clear, blatant, smelly, brown, fly-hopped hypocrisy. Next time some Mozilla mandarin pontificates about spyware, will anyone be able to take him seriously?

MechR · Post by **MechR** » November 20th, 2004, 7:09 pm

Damn, but you're cynical. Oh well, welcome to the boards...

rfrangioni77 · Post by **rfrangioni77** » November 20th, 2004, 7:50 pm

hotel porkpie wrote:Sounds familiar. Just the usual politician patter.

Yeah, never mind it's all true.

But by all means, please don't let facts get in the way of your aimless rant. The ignorance and uber-sensationalism of it is rather amusing, actually.

hotel porkpie wrote:Next time some Mozilla mandarin pontificates about spyware, will anyone be able to take him seriously?

Yes, I will, because I don't use the German version.

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