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Posted July 25th, 2003, 4:14 pm

Tom Sommer wrote:The second is the option to disable it, which I am bloody looking forward to.. I hate the damn thing

I really have to second this.. without an option to disable autoscroll I simply can't use these builds efficiently, after becoming accustomed to mouse gestures. And unfortunately this outweighs any of the improvements in these builds, atleast for me.

Posted July 25th, 2003, 4:49 pm

Colin Ramsay wrote:
Sailfish wrote:A real pain, imo.

A real pain? Doesn't the pointer change to a little hand when you hover onto a link? Anyway, I agree that autoscroll needs work (I'm sure a solution to your problem could be found) but I 100% agree with it needing to be in.

Well, in my case, it changes to the Link-Select anicursor which, on my system is a hollowed, color-changing arrowhead. But, it doesn't matter since I'm not a precision-guided surfer but, rather a "ready-click-aim" type. In addition, the middle button is a scroll-wheel so autoscroll also gets enabled when I inadvertently apply a bit too much pressure to the wheel.

So, yes, it's a real pain.

Lastly, I wasn't arguing for its removal, only the ability to disable it.

Posted July 25th, 2003, 6:28 pm

I thought I'd jump into the fray. Isn't the reason for the 0.6.1 release just to give new comers a chance to get a more up to date stable browser without having to deal with nightlies? I'll answer my own question on that as a "Yes". Should auto-scroll be disabled in the 0.6.1 release? Maybe, but it depends on how big of a change it would be. If it would require a decent amount of messing in the code then we might as well throw out the 1.5a branch and make a new one. Since we've already made the 1.5a branch we might as well stick with it. Just because we have a 0.6.1 doesn't mean we couldn't have a 0.6.2.

Really if we want to help get Firebird distributed then we need to ask ourselves whether 0.6.1 is better to give to new users than 0.6? If it is then why not go ahead with it? If it isn't then what should be done? If getting auto-scroll changed so it can be disabled is going to cause too much work to have to be done then let's leave it for the next release and move on. People who hate the autoscroll can keep with the nightlies and help get things ready for 0.6.2 or 0.7. I'd rather see 1.5a get finished off quickly so we can move to defining the feature set for 1.5b then spend a whole bunch of time on 1.5a and delay 1.5b.

Just my thoughts.

Posted July 25th, 2003, 6:33 pm

how about *ahem* a mac version?

i'm desperately trying not to annoy asa to death while at the same time really wanting any sort of news on mac firebird.

Posted July 25th, 2003, 6:44 pm

This build suffers from a serious regression in autocomplete: <a href="http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=212686">bug 212686</a>, "Arrowing into form autocomplete dropdown updates autocomplete (often making the dropdown disappear)".

Posted July 25th, 2003, 6:55 pm

major bug, tough to see how this hasn't been reported yet. when you click on the little arrow on the right of the url bar to get the dropdown menu of recently visited sites, the menu is shifted far to the left so that the right edge of the menu touches the left edge of the url bar. this only happens if you take the search bar out of the toolbar, if you leave it in, things look just fine.

Posted July 25th, 2003, 6:56 pm

Testing this build on ebay, virgin flight booking other aus sites
works OK.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.5a) Gecko/20030725 Mozilla Firebird/0.6

Posted July 25th, 2003, 7:17 pm

another bug. i surfed around for a while, then exited by clicking file>exit. fb closed properly, but then i got an alert and the netscape feedback thing. i tried it again later and no problem.

Posted July 25th, 2003, 7:42 pm

duns0014 wrote:major bug, tough to see how this hasn't been reported yet. when you click on the little arrow on the right of the url bar to get the dropdown menu of recently visited sites, the menu is shifted far to the left so that the right edge of the menu touches the left edge of the url bar. this only happens if you take the search bar out of the toolbar, if you leave it in, things look just fine.

This is an ancient bug, going back at least to 0.4. As a workaround, put an icon like the Go button or the Throbber (the button that takes you to Mozilla.org) to the right of the URL bar. That fixes it.

Speaking of old bugs: Blake just moved the target build of the non-resizable Customize window bug from 0.7 to 1.0. I remember when the target was 0.5.

Q: is this build -- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5a) Gecko/20030725 Mozilla Firebird/0.6 -- the 0.6.1 build? It sure is sweet.

Posted July 25th, 2003, 8:05 pm

ehume wrote:
duns0014 wrote:major bug, tough to see how this hasn't been reported yet. when you click on the little arrow on the right of the url bar to get the dropdown menu of recently visited sites, the menu is shifted far to the left so that the right edge of the menu touches the left edge of the url bar. this only happens if you take the search bar out of the toolbar, if you leave it in, things look just fine.
This is an ancient bug, going back at least to 0.4. As a workaround, put an icon like the Go button or the Throbber (the button that takes you to Mozilla.org) to the right of the URL bar. That fixes it.

Speaking of old bugs: Blake just moved the target build of the non-resizable Customize window bug from 0.7 to 1.0. I remember when the target was 0.5.

Q: is this build -- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5a) Gecko/20030725 Mozilla Firebird/0.6 -- the 0.6.1 build? It sure is sweet.

You can also put in a separator or a flexible space if you don't want to put the go button or the throbber back in.

Posted July 25th, 2003, 8:13 pm

ehume wrote:Speaking of old bugs: Blake just moved the target build of the non-resizable Customize window bug from 0.7 to 1.0. I remember when the target was 0.5.

I didn't want to believe the email! This is a huge problem for a relative of mine (who uses large fonts on a regular basis). This REALLY needs to be fixed soon! Firebird should be workable for everyone, not just those who keep the system default fonts. Is there a reason for the change? There appears to be a working patch.

Posted July 25th, 2003, 9:30 pm

mactenchi wrote:how about *ahem* a mac version?

i'm desperately trying not to annoy asa to death while at the same time really wanting any sort of news on mac firebird.

We're workin' on it. The machine that builds mac Firebird was lost.

--Asa

Posted July 25th, 2003, 9:39 pm

Jesse wrote:This build suffers from a serious regression in autocomplete: <a href="http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=212686">bug 212686</a>, "Arrowing into form autocomplete dropdown updates autocomplete (often making the dropdown disappear)".

Just fixed.

--Asa

Posted July 25th, 2003, 9:47 pm

Okay, whoever dumped a vat of this stuff all over asa's avatar ... fess-up! :crazyeyes:

Posted July 25th, 2003, 10:02 pm

Sailfish wrote:Okay, whoever dumped a vat of this stuff all over asa's avatar ... fess-up!

should I go to my blue version? The empty one is just my template as I play around with various colors and textures.
<img src="http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/head-blue-s.png">

--Asa

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