Phoenix in 7-zip?

cheeaun · Post by **cheeaun** » November 6th, 2002, 3:02 am

If the Phoenix build is to be compressed with 7-zip [<a href="http://www.7-zip.org/">http://www.7-zip.org/</a>], it's file size would be smaller.

Balboa · Post by **Balboa** » November 6th, 2002, 3:22 am

...I'm sure there are also a whole slew of Unix compression formats that would make the download even smaller!

cdn · Post by **cdn** » November 6th, 2002, 3:25 am

tar.bz2 for one

shimage · Post by **shimage** » November 6th, 2002, 3:49 am

cdn wrote:tar.bz2 for one

possibly. but i don't think so. 7-zip is a pretty good compressor. in general, i haven't been very impressed with unix compression formats. sure, they're better than zip, but that doesn't say much... i don't think, however, that making everybody download the 7-zip program would be a good idea. it's probably best to stick with whatever compression program most people have. for that, gz or bz2 is probably best for *nix, and zip is best for windows.

hmm. granted, i'm no expert in compression formats, though...

michal017 · Post by **michal017** » November 6th, 2002, 6:02 am

there was some discussion in the bug 'make phoenix as small as possible' about compressing it with bz2, I don't know why they don't do it yet..

Ashitaka · Post by **Ashitaka** » November 6th, 2002, 6:04 am

shimage wrote:i don't think, however, that making everybody download the 7-zip program would be a good idea. it's probably best to stick with whatever compression program most people have.

What about self-extracting executables? When it comes time to make a Phoenix installer, do you think ICEOWS or 7-Zip could cut it?

Balboa · Post by **Balboa** » November 6th, 2002, 6:07 am

http://compression.ca/act-executable.html might be of interest to all you stats freaks

greg · Post by **greg** » November 6th, 2002, 6:39 am

I made a simple test and recompressed today's nightly with bzip2:
-rw-r----- 1 greg wheel 9577620 6 Nov 14:36 phoenix-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.gz
-rw-r----- 1 greg wheel 8944080 6 Nov 14:36 phoenix-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.bz2

Seems to save about 550kb. I don't think that's worth it.

But for some reasons I wouldn't like some other exotic compressing algorithm, and I don't like self-extraction either.

Stefan · Post by **Stefan** » November 6th, 2002, 6:46 am

cdn wrote:tar.bz2 for one

IIRC one of the 7 formats used by 7-zip is bzip2

I think it automatically uses the method that compresses something the best.

seb · Post by **seb** » November 6th, 2002, 10:35 am

cheeaun wrote:If the Phoenix build is to be compressed with 7-zip [<a href="http://www.7-zip.org/">http://www.7-zip.org/</a>], it's file size would be smaller.

The NSIS guys are planning to add LZMA compression (the one used in 7z) as a compression method for NSIS 2.0.
When it's available, I'll use it in my installer (it's using bz2 now). It should make the download size around 6.1 or 6.2 megs (against ~6.5 megs now).

Post by **old Neil Parks** » November 6th, 2002, 11:04 am

If phoenix is distributed in the 7-zip format, will we have to start calling it "Blake's Seven"?

:lol:

clav · Post by **clav** » November 6th, 2002, 7:10 pm

personally i find that 7zip produces smaller .zip files than other file compression tools when both are set to maximum compression rate. quite strange really

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