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Re: Hyena

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Flii wrote:Scamp (Standards Compliant and Multi Platform)


Nooo... that sounds like seafood:P

eyeBrowse just looks like a riff on what everyone thought Safari was going to be named (iBrowse). Either way it really does give the impression of a Mac application, which could be problematic since it doesn't officially exist on the Mac. I still think Shuttle is good though :)... time to read the "sex" post apparently.

[Edit: hah... that post about sex was hilarious... wonder what you'd call extensions... foreplay?]
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[quote="[ct]"]Wow, my Hyena suggestion nearly turned into a racial issue... I bet everyone's looking forward to what I'm going to write next.[/quote]

Well, it sort of got out of hands (because of politics, I have become a little bit anti-american). My fault. Completely. Sorry.

[quote="[ct]"]First of all, according to Dictionary.com, hyenas <i>are</i> cowardly, so I don't like the name myself that much anymore. :P[/quote]

The information I found seems to be a bit different:
http://www.wildwatch.com/resources/mammals/hyena.asp
http://www.liberalmafia.org/hyenas/hyena.html
http://www.livingdesert.org/sghyena.html
http://sailfish.exis.net/~spook/hyenatxt.html

A small quotation:
<i> Reputation as skulking scavenger, craven coward, and killer of young and sick animals applies to relations with humans. As scavengers around settlements, hyenas are persistent but remarkably craven when confronted. Similar caution combined with great patience is shown by hyenas awaiting the right moment to finish off sick or crippled large animals. Perfect opportunists, they always take the path of least resistance. Yet Crocuta is also the second-biggest and most formidable African carnivore, capable of running down and killing unaided a bull wildebeest 3 times its own weight.
How does the craven scavenger become transformed into the bold predator? Hunger drives a hyena to run down a large healthy ungulate-but only after failing to get a meal with less effort and risk. Predation also occurs spontaneously-e.g., when a daytime thunderstorm makes the ground slippery and antelopes easier to catch than usual.</i>

Naturally. Only a complete moron would do things the hard way.

Ok, if Hyena is not an option (which it still <i>is</i>, I hope) then how about <b>Rhinoceros</b>? Anybody suggested that before?
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Varjo wrote:Ok, if Hyena is not an option (which it still <i>is</i>, I hope) then how about <b>Rhinoceros</b>? Anybody suggested that before?


I don't know if this would bring up issues with some people, but theres at the very least a 3d modeling app called Rhinoceros 3D. May cause confusion perhaps?
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Varjo wrote:Ok, if Hyena is not an option (which it still <i>is</i>, I hope) then how about <b>Rhinoceros</b>? Anybody suggested that before?

I'd like the name to be a bit easier to pronounce. Words with 4 syllables does not fit into that requirement of mine. If you'd like to use the name of a wild animal, how about cheetah, jaguar, panther, etc.?
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daihard wrote:I'd like the name to be a bit easier to pronounce. Words with 4 syllables does not fit into that requirement of mine. If you'd like to use the name of a wild animal, how about cheetah, jaguar, panther, etc.?


Don't forget Puma... that just about covers every OSX codename I can think of. :)
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EyeBrowse it's a nice one... goes the same way (tech misspell...) as "my" WebSight....
Still for both there's the spelling issue...
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MoNkaholic wrote:
daihard wrote:I'd like the name to be a bit easier to pronounce. Words with 4 syllables does not fit into that requirement of mine. If you'd like to use the name of a wild animal, how about cheetah, jaguar, panther, etc.?

Don't forget Puma... that just about covers every OSX codename I can think of. :)

Not that I'm a Mac user, though... ;) Oh, I forgot Falcon, my favourite bird. :)
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If we're going the predator route, I think big predators give the wrong idea about the browser. Instead,

meercat

would be more appropriate. Or

peregrine

a small falcon.

Something small, agile, and a name that will appeal to women as well as men (hence, no raging ferocious names),
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ehume wrote:If we're going the predator route, I think big predators give the wrong idea about the browser.

True, we sure don't want to sound like a Microsoft advocate. ;)
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daihard wrote:
ehume wrote:If we're going the predator route, I think big predators give the wrong idea about the browser.

True, we sure don't want to sound like a Microsoft advocate. ;)
LOL!
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[quote="ehume"]If we're going the predator route, I think big predators give the wrong idea about the browser.[/quote]

Nah. Big predators rule!

What about <b>Crocodile</b>?
http://www.wildwatch.com/resources/othe ... odiles.asp

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Re: Hyena

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Varjo wrote:1) just because you _think_ something doesn't make it true

A quote which applies to yourself concerning #3 below. :)

Varjo wrote:2) hyenas are no more dirty or smelling than, let's say, lions. People should be educated about this very common misconception.

All animals in the wild are dirty and smelly, although some like aardwolves and waterbucks stink more due to oils/glands. I've probably watched more hyenas (brown and spotted) in the wild than most people here and nothing I've seen contradicts the common perceptions that they are scavengers of carrion under most circumstances. Different sources will claim different ratios of scavenging to hunting for hyenas and I don't know which to believe. They will fight off vultures and jackals, but almost always flee from lions. This isn't a bad thing, it's just where they fit into the natural order. Lion's will certainly eat carrion if they find it, but they generally kill their own prey, probably because they both can and need to. I believe the spotted hyena has the stronger jaw and bite strength than the lion, better for crushing thigh bones of large animals and eating the marrow.


Varjo wrote:3) americans aren't exactly the brightest and most educated people in the world

For a country of almost 300,000,000 that tries to educate _every single_ person equally well, they have no equal. They don't channel students at an early age like the Germans, they don't fail to educate large percentages of the populace like India, and they don't ride their kids in incredibly stressful achievement-oriented environments like some Asian nations. Sure, students in Europe learn more languages, but that is a product of their geography (and the fact that they should learn English to increase their chance of success in the world today.) A Belgian can take a short day trip that encompasses four different languages. Most Americans could drive over 1,000,000 square miles of the continent without running into anything more than a different accent. Most Americans have almost nothing to gain by speaking another language.

Varjo wrote:(no, I'm _not_ telling you guys are dumb even though your presidents are and the last election were quite a farce).

Show me the government of any country that isn't riddling with nitwits.

The last American election pitted a moron against an idiot as far as the general consensus went. The idiot lost and has done nothing to change his image. The moron won and has proven himself less moronic and far more capable that previously thought. _Too_ capable for those hoping to not have war in Iraq.

Bush is not who I wanted to be in charge of America, but I believe the right man won.


Varjo wrote:And as sad as it is, this leads to the situation that in Europe, United States and americans are nothing but a big joke. And dangerous joke too, since too much power in the hands of hypocritical and arrogant nation eventually leads to serious trouble as we have seen many times before and it seems we are about to witness that to happen again quite soon.
Even canadians make fun of you because you don't seem to know a damn thing about the world outside u.s.

I can say for certain that such opinion is not unilaterally shared by all non-Americans.

America has more influence on the economy and culture of the world than any country ever has in the history of this planet. Other nations have been able to enjoy a semi-peaceful existence amid a world more riddled with devastating weapons than ever before because of America since they built up during WWII.

But now the U.S. finds itself at a precipice. The future of America as the dominant world superpower could be decided in the next six months.

If Iraq is building weapons of mass destruction and is not stopped now, those weapons will find their way into terrorist hands to be deployed against America. The potential damage could cripple that country and devastate the world economy, not to mention the resulting loss of personal freedoms everywhere as countries enact measures to protect themselves against terrorists.

Now if America takes military action against Iraq (especially without UN agreement) and either finds proof they were not building weapons or cannot find proof they were, then America would lose a tremendous amount of "face" in international affairs. They would be brought down in power and prestige close to the level of other influential nations...they would no longer be a superpower in politics.

And finally, if this situation draws out for months on end without going anywhere, America will lose as well. Russia and China know this and is why they are pushing for 'more time for the inspectors'. No great harm will come to Russia or China if America is attacked, so stalling for time is a win-win situation for them.
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Flii wrote:as a population, we actually like most other countries


Except the French, but then who does like the French? :P

Really though, I find Americans both like the French and like to make fun of the French. It is a very odd thing, to admire many aspect of a culture you make jokes about.



MoNkaholic wrote:Ah well... how about Shuttle.

It uses the transport metaphor, and is short and to the point. Also a very simple name to come up with branding ideas for. :)


And after the recent Space Shuttle tragedy for Americans, a name we should avoid I believe.
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Re: Hyena

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Varjo wrote:There are two documents people really should see:
"Bowling for Columbine" and
"Let's Ask Americans"

The last one is canadian where guys travel across America and ask people (including professor who were supposed to be specialists in their own profession) completely idiotic questions.


And only published the comically inane answers.

To read those books as a lone way of understanding America is folly. They represent a laughable look at a minority. Consider the main market for the novels: America. They are books for Americans to laugh at themselves which is a strong indicator that the majority of Americans are above what is represented therein.


Varjo wrote:I wonder if it would be possible to have a hyena as a pet without getting killed (or sued) if you raised it from a cub.

Probably. Almost any animal is tame when raised from an infant. I've known someone with a lion as a pet and cheetahs are common....insofar as a cat can ever really be considered a pet. They aren't dog-friendly for sure.

Hyenas aren't cats or dogs so I couldn't guess what they would be like.
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Re: Hyena

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[quote="Lurker"]
America has more influence on the economy and culture of the world than any country ever has in the history of this planet. Other nations have been able to enjoy a semi-peaceful existence amid a world more riddled with devastating weapons than ever before because of America since they built up during WWII.
[/quote]

Thanks to balance of fear.
Better than nothing.

[quote="Lurker]
If Iraq is building weapons of mass destruction and is not stopped now, those weapons will find their way into terrorist hands to be deployed against America.
[/quote]

And guess which country kindly offered helping hand to Iraq back in the eighties to make biological and chemical weapons? That's right, America.
And German helped with missiles, if I remember correct.

And the only country that has ever used mass destruction weapons to kill civilians (remember '45?) is concerned that some country might have mass destruction weapons. Give me a break!

Funny how things go. Friends one day, enemies the second.

[quote="Lurker"]No great harm will come to Russia or China if America is attacked, so stalling for time is a win-win situation for them.[/quote]

It's not very likely that Saddam will drag his mass destruction weapons across the sea to attack America.
You wouldn't be so hated if you wouldn't act like a you were a leader of the world above all laws.
When I follow your politics it sometimes seems that you actually _beg_ to get your asses kicked.
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