Vivaldi seems to not make the latest sources available https://vivaldi.com/source/ so I am still thinking Chromium would be my choice if SeaMonkey can no longer be maintained.
Brave seems also be up to date wrt source:
https://github.com/brave/brave-browser
Unfortunately I dislike all the modern minimalistic ui's so no winner.
Getting back on the Firefox track. Per stats Fx lost about 20 to 25% of it's users after quantum.The spiel was that stats didn't reflect the true numbers but they must be at least semi accurate because I see a sharp drop after macOS 10.14 was released where Fx needed an emergency release to fix it. Quantum is the Pentium 4 for me. Some great things but a dead end. No longer care about anything post Gecko 60 with recent removals (bookmark descriptions, rss, much xbl among the most visiblt to a dev) and even 60 is a mess.
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Do you think Firefox 57 helped or hurt Firefox?
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Re: Do you think Firefox 57 helped or hurt Firefox?
Why are they releasing source code like they work on Android? They don't have a git like the rest of the modern world?frg wrote:Vivaldi seems to not make the latest sources available https://vivaldi.com/source/ so I am still thinking Chromium would be my choice if SeaMonkey can no longer be maintained.
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Re: Do you think Firefox 57 helped or hurt Firefox?
only p[lace i dont use firefox an thats on the Mobile Phone. i only use Chrome there
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I'm on 52.9esr, and I know it's not going to be secure. I have some vital extensions and css tweaks that I don't want to lose. And I see the menu bar is gone too. Looks like Chrome, all the functions hidden. Are they allowing a bookmark bar?
OTOH, I used WinXP Pro carefully for 3 years after the security updates ceased, and I kept it safe. I quit only when my work required Win7.
OTOH, I used WinXP Pro carefully for 3 years after the security updates ceased, and I kept it safe. I quit only when my work required Win7.
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Re: Do you think Firefox 57 helped or hurt Firefox?
This is interesting though I'm not sure I fully agree with it. But I get that people want to extend XP and Firefox 52 support
https://msfn.org/board/topic/177881-moz ... #comment-1
https://msfn.org/board/topic/177881-moz ... #comment-1
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Re: Do you think Firefox 57 helped or hurt Firefox?
Forcing mozilla to extend period until april 2019 when pos2009 finally is eol? Not really. Pos-patches on another base ever was questionable. Not to mention the rest of surrounding outdated products...
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UAC on Win 7 is a nightmare, and I still love XP, but I'm not using it. Petition has13 signatures, so it's not going to happen.
Mz didn't care about dropping XUL, certainly doesn't care about XP.
Mz didn't care about dropping XUL, certainly doesn't care about XP.
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Re: Do you think Firefox 57 helped or hurt Firefox?
The Firefox loss of market share looks roughly linear for the last 2 years. Quantum release was about a year ago. The rate of loss looks no better or worse after Quantum. I think Firefox quality is great, I think one of the main reasons people are using Chrome is to sync with Chrome on their phones. I believe it is very important that there be multiple popular browser rendering engines, to avoid the way things were when sites were "best viewed with IE" . If sites don't design and test for Firefox since Firefox market share is too low, that will be a sad day.