Outlook-type open source client for winxp

Radiowriter · Post by **Radiowriter** » February 26th, 2003, 7:21 pm

Chris Cook wrote:Switch to Linux (even if for no other reason) and then get Ximian Evolution which is the best Outlook clone that I know of.

I'm with Chris. Evolution is actually better than Outlook! :!:

djnr · Post by **djnr** » February 27th, 2003, 11:29 am

Incidentally, if you sign up for a yahoo account at yahoo.ca instead of yahoo.com, you get 6MB instead of 4MB and POP/SMTP are enabled. You might also have to indicate Canada as your country of residence. Not sure why Canadian Yahoo offers better service, but it has for a bout a year now ever since yahoo.com made thos services paid.

I'll have to check out this Evolution thing though...

I agree that it's worth switching to Linux. Mandrake 9 is pretty comparable to Windows in its ease of use and installation, and a lot of the software is way smarter. Even the KMail client, which I've been using, supports redirecting and bouncing e-mail messages, multiple accounts, everything I need.

Another thing I recommend to people is storing data in text files. Saves disk space, always compatible. I use Metapad in win32, put my info files on the favourites menu and it's really quite quick. There's a lot of other text-based tools out there though too.

Generally I don't like "all-in-one" apps because you lose a lot of flexibility. Also, dedicated apps are generally better at their specific purpose.

Mandrake Linux also comes with a calendar/task manager installed as default, though I haven't used it.

Post by **Alex Bishop** » February 27th, 2003, 1:29 pm

djnrempel wrote:Incidentally, if you sign up for a yahoo account at yahoo.ca instead of yahoo.com, you get 6MB instead of 4MB and POP/SMTP are enabled. You might also have to indicate Canada as your country of residence. Not sure why Canadian Yahoo offers better service, but it has for a bout a year now ever since yahoo.com made thos services paid.

Seems to be a similar thing with Yahoo! Mail UK & Ireland except without the free POP access. You used to get 6MB with Yahoo! Mail US and I'm pretty certain that existing Yahoo! Mail customers haven't had their quotas reduced. I haven't but then I am a funny case because I've got an @yahoo.com email address but otherwise I'm all Yahoo! UK & Ireland, right down to the URL beginning with http://uk. when I login to Yahoo! Mail. Of course, I signed up for an account in 1998 when you couldn't get @yahoo.co.uk addresses (you also only got 3MB of storage).

Joao M · Post by **Joao M** » February 27th, 2003, 8:18 pm

Radiowriter wrote:
Chris Cook wrote:Switch to Linux (even if for no other reason) and then get Ximian Evolution which is the best Outlook clone that I know of.

I'm with Chris. Evolution is actually better than Outlook!

I never used Evolution, but for Linux, Sylpheed is pretty fast.
http://sylpheed.good-day.net/

Stefan · Post by **Stefan** » March 3rd, 2003, 9:08 am

../frank wrote:Stefan - If you've actually tried Pegasus mail and find its filtering / classification rules inadequate, I apologize.

But if you haven't tried it, don't knock it. I've been using Pegasus for about 5 years. IMO, the web page understates its capabilities.

I'm not knocking Pegasus capabilities, I'm knocking the person restating the pegasus website marketing hype without reflecting about if it is really accurate or not.

There is a difference between having a very good filering system and "the most powerful implementation of automated rule-based filtering you'll find in a mail client".

If you can explain what makes pegasus filtering "more powerful" then what is available in ANY OTHER mailclient (most notably Mozilla mail & it's selflearning spamfiltering) I'm more then willing to listen.

hfilesreviewer · Post by **hfilesreviewer** » March 3rd, 2003, 7:31 pm

I actually for a while used Mozilla Mail and Phoenix. Outlook Express is OK when it's all you can use, but if you want something stable, and without all the flaws, Mozilla Mail is really good. I also would have to agree that Evolution is very good. It's about the only email client I've really really liked.

warenhaus · Post by **warenhaus** » March 4th, 2003, 4:06 am

i installed pegasus after reading this thread, but i have to say it reminds me a bit of Win3.11 (i actually used it back in the days, maybe it's because of that). it doesn't really fit too well into the winXP look&feel (if there's something like that). and the icons... is it skinnable, does sb know? it starts up quite fast though.

am I the only one using Pine via a standard Telnet-client on winXP? Sending mails with attachments to a webmail account to view them?

btw, still waiting for minotaur/thunderbird, what's up with that?

btw2, if you search for "phoenix" in sourceforge, you'll see it's time to change the name anyway.

Vanitas · Post by **Vanitas** » March 4th, 2003, 4:32 am

Radiowriter wrote:I'm with Chris. Evolution is actually better than Outlook!

I miss in it one thing. It doesn't work with Exchange 5.x mail server (except IMAP protocol). You can buy extension called "Exchange Connector" for connectivity with only Exchange 2000 servers... If you work in place where there is older Exchange server, you have to use i.e. Terminal Server, Outlook on it, and Citrix ICA client for Linux

V.

antiphon · Post by **antiphon** » March 4th, 2003, 9:05 am

I'm a big list junkie and need a Windows email app that supports threaded message display. I realize that MozMail can do it but it's too slow for my systems. I've downloaded FoxMail and Eudora but can't seem to figure out how to get the messages to appear nested according to thread.

Post by **tve** » March 4th, 2003, 1:02 pm

Phoenix Mail revival: http://roundabout.sourceforge.net/

and I just discovered another very nice email client, "GeMail". very "Outlook-like", but only available in German yet :-p

http://www.geve.de/gemail/

Spewey · Post by **Spewey** » March 4th, 2003, 1:28 pm

two legged freak wrote:Phoenix Mail revival: http://roundabout.sourceforge.net/

Hey, that looks nice. I did not know about that. And it seems to work.

Can you or anyone give me any background info on this project? Px browser-related in spirit? Independent of Minotaur/Tbird devs? What is it?

Post by **tve** » March 4th, 2003, 1:44 pm

Spewey wrote:
two legged freak wrote:Phoenix Mail revival: http://roundabout.sourceforge.net/

Hey, that looks nice. I did not know about that. And it seems to work.

Can you or anyone give me any background info on this project? Px browser-related in spirit? Independent of Minotaur/Tbird devs? What is it?

this project has nothing to do with the Mozilla project and the Phoenix Browser :)

it's just a project that has been discontinued a while ago, and now picked up by other developers that continue it now under the name "RoundAbout"

the original project is here:
http://www.lemley.net/~jon/phoenix/us_index.html

continued here:
http://phxmail.sourceforge.net/

and now here:
http://roundabout.sourceforge.net/

;)

djnr · Post by **djnr** » March 4th, 2003, 4:41 pm

two legged freak wrote:Phoenix Mail revival: http://roundabout.sourceforge.net/

Very cool. I've used Phoenix mail in the past, but it lacked "polish".

Just installed it and it works beautifully for my purposes. The SMTP login control and the ability to redirect e-mail are both key for me. It also lets you view messages on the server before downloading them, which is a lovely feature. I recommend it.

Alas for now though Yahoo.ca is perfect for my needs.

Chris Cook · Post by **Chris Cook** » March 4th, 2003, 6:56 pm

djnrempel wrote:Alas for now though Yahoo.ca is perfect for my needs.

I take it then that you haven't had > 50% of your email dropped by yahoo recently? You're either lucky or I'm not.

Outlook-type open source client for winxp

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